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What is the process you used to make this, what is the batch size and the tools used?
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Depends on your budget, you can get the Misceo one.
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Maybe you can go with the most traditional, Glyceryl Stearate (and) PEG 100 Stearate. Not sure how well it will do as I’ve not tested making a conditioner with that yet.
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Depends on the reason.
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Since the ingredients list is relatively simple, the replication shouldn’t be that hard if you get to test out the product and have sufficient experience with each ingredient / blend to make an educated guess.
You can make a preserved version if required. The biomimetic probably refers to the function that the emulsifier blend has, mainly the “biomimic the lipid bilayer of cellular membrane” from a blend like Montanov 68 (INCI: CETEARYL ALCOHOL (and) CETEARYL GLUCOSIDE) https://www.seppic.com/en/montanov-68mb
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As graillotion mentioned, i’d also recommend starting with 2%. It’s best to have it in a leave on formula. Not much point in rinsing it off and wasting money.
Remember to patch test. I found out i was allergic to that.
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reduce the glycerin slightly and try another polymer
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Not sure if my PDFs will be useful.
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It can depend on a few factors and your requirements, the combination doesn’t need to be too difficult.
For example:
- Genagen 3sb blend + thickener + Cetiol 767 (optional)
- sodium cocoyl glutamate + cocamidopropyl betaine + thickener
- Plantapon SF + thickener (depending on viscosity requirements)
For my cleanser, it’s a mix of Sodium Lauroyl Glutamate & Disodium Cocoamphodiacetate in a foam bottle. I didn’t make it into a gel. ASM around 5%.
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Maybe it’s me, but i think the first part should remain the same and keep the last part as the varying factor.
“Hand-made in small batches using carefully curated ingredients…”
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Will this be similar to the “For me by me” concept from Axis-y? But would be “from us for you” instead? ????
https://www.axis-y.com/pages/ayme
Will you conduct a survey or poll for each functional category?
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Maybe you can use a solubilizer with a suitable polymer like sepimax zen if the percentage is low. If not just use a normal emulsifier if it’s really 5%.
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I think a more affordable source would be on the site here, you can take a look at Perry’s courses or info available. https://chemistscorner.com/products/
You can also get some ideas for beginner workshops from IPCS’s workshop or course work
https://personalcarescience.com.au/CosmeticScience/BeginnersCosmeticScienceWorkshops-469/
IPCS provides an ingredient pack for their students, so can you work with the repackers to get a suitable ingredients pack for your workshop as well.
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It’s 15ml, so the price looks about reasonable for the ingredients.
I don’t think i saw them revealing the percentages of ingredients for this serum compared to their matrixyl one, so it’s possible that they didn’t have much of them in there.
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It depends on what type of combination you want. You can consider what graillotion has mentioned to add an additional anionic co-emulsifier and/or you can choose a fatty alcohol, and the polymer you prefer, depending on stability and skin feel / texture. For the polymer, you can also choose carbomer or other similar ones.
For the combination, it also depends on the cost and what kind of convenience you want. Since the viscolam 100 is a polymeric emulsifier blend, you can choose to use 165 + fatty alcohol + viscolam. If you prefer better flexibility, you can choose the 165 + co-emulsifier +/ fatty alcohol + polymer.
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You can just go with 165 + some fatty alcohol + carbomer. This combination should be standard enough unless you are looking for some specific requirement or effect.
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- Resveratrol might be easy to oxidize, so it really depends if you want to add to this formula as it depends on the batch you want to make.
- Niacinamide / 3-Glyceryl Ascorbate / Tetrahexyldecyl Ascorbate - The pH might not be in the compatible range. You might want to also just use 1 of the vit c.
- 72 Hour Moisture & Glycan Booster Peptide - It might affect the viscosity of the Gel Maker EMU, so it’s something to consider as they seem to contain electrolytes.
- You might want to add an emulsifier blend.
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You’ll have to use a more electrolyte resistant polymer or rework the thickening by other ingredients.
If not you can use other derivatives like ethyl ascorbic acid.
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Depending on the attachment you choose, there shouldn’t be any issues if you make less than 500g if the vessel you use is tall and narrow enough to reduce the amount of air introduced.
I do also make 50g and above batches of moisturizers & gelled formulas with the homogenizer attachment in beakers or different glassware.
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I do have symglucan, but i’ve only tested it at a lower percentage because it has glycerin, but it should feel that significant if you find a version that is either the powder form or uses other preservation systems like butylene glycol. I’ve not tested with the 2 versions yet since it’s not really my priority but I think the film formed should be that obvious if the percentage is not that high.
For example, for symglucan, it’s a 1% oat beta glucan solution, the use rate is up to 10%, so it’s only 0.1% active. In terms of performance wise, I think it’s slightly hard to observe because of the glycerin.
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I think it should be ok. As long as you have a voting system that can do a step by step voting if not all the manual compiling can be slightly tedious depending on how long the list of ingredients are. Maybe you can use a google or microsoft form / sheet.
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Yes, i did buy some peptides before from repackers, but obviously i don’t but it buy at the scale that The Ordinary is buying from the manufacturers’ at.
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You can take a look at the blend, specs, or SDS if they mention any ingredients that include sodium, magnesium, etc. So MAP, it won’t work out.
You can take a look at Graillotion’s url that he provided. If based on the pH range mentioned in the post, you can consider the Tetrahexyldecyl Ascorbate, if you prefer a water soluble one, you can perhaps consider Ethyl Ascorbic Acid.