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  • The eternal dilemma of the hand blender

    Posted by nkpalaci on March 20, 2024 at 3:34 pm

    Hello everyone, I’m new here!

    I’ve been living in another country for a few months, I don’t have clients yet, but I need a handblender recommendation for basic emulsion please!!

    Months ago I bought a Ninja hand mixer, with 1 speed and 1 turbo, it looks good quality. I used it at normal speed, immersing the machine without moving it, as usual, but it created bubbles, ruined many of my lotions.

    I’m desperate for advice.

    Thanks for your time.

    nkpalaci replied 3 weeks, 4 days ago 3 Members · 8 Replies
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  • jemolian

    Member
    March 20, 2024 at 7:40 pm

    Depends on your budget, you can get the Misceo one.

    • Graillotion

      Member
      March 20, 2024 at 8:44 pm

      Misceo and Dynamic (MiniPro) are the same company….I believe they only distinguish based on power supplied in your country.

    • nkpalaci

      Member
      March 20, 2024 at 11:48 pm

      My budget is approximately $350 usd.

      I thought about investing in the Minipro homogenizer since my biggest problem now is bubbles, but then I realized two things:

      1. It is indicated for batches of 1lt or more specified in the technical sheet. I am just getting clients so I should start with a maximum of 500 gr.

      2. A stirrer is necessary to complete the creams and my budget is not enough for both (the cheapest works in quantities less than 1lt).

      I hope in 6 months to be making 1lt batches.

      Have you made batches of 500g or less with the Minipro homogenizer?

      Thank you.

      • Graillotion

        Member
        March 21, 2024 at 12:34 am

        As a formulator….rare is the day I make a formula larger than 150 grams. 🙂 (And yes, I use my minipro on them all.)

        I think you need to study emulsion science a little more…before you decide on what equipment is best for you. I think…. you will discover that particle size is hyper critical…especially on micelle type emulsions. You can make certain kinds of formulas with a fork and whisk ????…. but I wouldn’t sell them.

        There is a free course that this site, and partner sites offer, and you might consider taking ….before parting with your coin. 🙂

        Note: The stirrer should stir out any bubbles….you insert during shear. It is very difficult to not have bubbles in your product during small scale production. Stirring….should eliminate them. 🙂

        • nkpalaci

          Member
          June 24, 2024 at 9:20 am

          Hello graillotion! I’m back with some questions, I hope you can help me 🙂

          I bought the mini pro homogenizer and a basic stirrer overhead.

          The creams feel much more luxurious, the only thing I’m not sure how to resolve is the thickness, because I think that due to the loss of air and the size of the molecule, the cream is more liquid now with the same amount of emulsifier. I wonder if it is the blending time that can also affect it? How long do you use the homogenizer to feel sure that it is well homogenized and without breaking the cream?

          What is the thickest thing you work with?

          I would appreciate it if you could guide me with your experience! Thanks!

          • nkpalaci

            Member
            June 25, 2024 at 10:33 am

            @Graillotion
            Sorry for the double message, I still don’t know how to use this forum correctly, I’m not sure if I should have tagged you in the previous one.

      • jemolian

        Member
        March 21, 2024 at 1:14 am

        Depending on the attachment you choose, there shouldn’t be any issues if you make less than 500g if the vessel you use is tall and narrow enough to reduce the amount of air introduced.

        I do also make 50g and above batches of moisturizers & gelled formulas with the homogenizer attachment in beakers or different glassware.

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