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  • Onur

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    March 6, 2024 at 12:28 pm in reply to: creating 15% azelaic acid gel

    Lecithin (0.5% or less) is the way to create liposomes in formulas. Get a decent soy lecihthin and work with it.

  • Onur

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    March 5, 2024 at 11:25 pm in reply to: Rinse-out Conditioner

    I love BRB 1288 (amodimethicone, trideceth-12, cetrimonium chloride)

    Awesome conditioning trio for liquid sprays, could be added to the finished product and don’t thicken much. I don’t like how glycerin feels on my hair, though. It’s sticky and feels chalky later.

  • Onur

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    March 5, 2024 at 11:17 pm in reply to: What are some general guidelines for making a heat protectant?

    Not an expert but looking at the commercial formulas, it seems that they’re just ingredients that seal the hair cuticles to prevent breakage during heat-treatments. Makes sense because heat will extremely dehydrate hair strands. Use silicones, emollients, cetearyl alcohol etc and it’s your heat protectant.

  • Onur

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    March 5, 2024 at 11:07 pm in reply to: creating 15% azelaic acid gel

    Are you starting with a prescription strength formula as a starting formulator? 15% Azealic acid is beyond the cosmetics standards, it’s a drug.

    Plus, it’s highly unstable with pH and heat dependency to perform well in a formula. Reduce it down to 5%, dissolve in glycerin or in propanediol as it’s a lot less sticky. You can try 1:2 ratio (5gr Azealic acid in 10 gr propanediol). Put them in a pre-gelled distilled water and stir. Try to keep it between the pH of 4.5 to 5, add preservative and chealating agents.

    Again, if you’re a starter formulator, maybe start with a nice niacinamide lotion?

  • Onur

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    March 5, 2024 at 10:03 pm in reply to: The Dark Side of Fragrance

    Many popular perfumes, colognes, and body sprays typically contain a dozen or more potentially hazardous synthetic chemicals.

    What exactly are non-synthetic aromachemicals? Are they the aldehydes like “hexyl cinnamal” in my chamomile tea, or the citral in my lemon cake, or are they like the terpenes and linalool in my tea-tree oil toner?

    They’re all natural but they’re a lot more sensitizing than the synthetically produced Ethyl Vanillin, which is very tolerable. Even your shea butter has volatile chemicals in it that makes up the scent profile of the oil.

    If they’re used within legal limits and consumers are comfortable with the finished product, it shouldn’t be an issue. Personally, I prefer creating fragrance-free formulas for the leave-on but I’m all for indulging in a heavenly scent for rinse-off systems!

  • Onur

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    March 5, 2024 at 9:24 pm in reply to: Retinol and actives (peptides) in waxy stick products

    It could be with the help of polymers, e.g Sepiplus 400 and esters/emollients. Wax-blends are not all stone-solid in a minute, some get viscosity over a longer period of time, you can incorporate heat-sensitive ingredients at this point (at around 40°C) and try high shear stirring. The cleansing balm I made with Cetearyl Alcohol + Stearic acid + IPM + Rice bran wax needed around 30min to get solid and it was still like a pudding at 35°C.

  • Onur

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    February 27, 2024 at 2:07 am in reply to: Can you please help formulating a hair & scalp serum?

    Scalp serums aren’t intended to offer the smooth gliding sensation that silicones give. Additionally, silicones are not water-soluble and should not be applied to the scalp since there is no need for substances that stick to the hair in this context. This includes silicones and cationic guar gum.

    Extracts are moslty marketing ploys unless their active ingredients and their efficacy for a specific condition are understood.

    For scalp moisturization, NMF (natural moisturizing factors) like Sodium PCA and Urea could be useful, despite their high electrolyte content, which would require the use of a compatible emulsifier. Panthenol and arginine might also become handy in scalp-treatment systems.

    To promote hair growth, you might want to add some caffeine, mild exfoliants like gluconolactone, terpenic compounds like α-pinene, eucalyptol, and camphor, which are present in rosemary essential oil, or tea-tree oil. These compounds not only impart a fresh sensation but also give antimicrobial properties.

    Lastly, you could use penetration enhancers like butylene glycol (water-soluble), ethanol (water-soluble), IPM (an ester, oil-soluble) to help with the delivery of active ingredients to deeper layers of the skin.

  • Onur

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    February 25, 2024 at 12:36 pm in reply to: Can Arginine function as a fixative in a leave-in conditioner?

    Yes, arginine works well in cathionic systems, it indeed is one of few cathionic amino-acids. It might help with conditioning but I wouldn’t use it above 3% in the formula, it’s a protein and your formula is mostly water, it might easily go rancid despite the preservative system. I’d also use a bit of silk/soy/wheat amino acids in such formulas.

    You can use water-soluble silicones like PEG-12 dimethicone or even regular ones. People make so much fuss about silicones but they’re actually fine, they do deposit on the hair but they go away with washing. What’s more difficult to remove is polyquats, they’re resins that stick and stay for a long time, which ends up in dull and matte looking hair.

    Lastly, if I was to make a leave-in conditioner, I’d definitely add a tiny amount of BRB 1288 (Amodimethicone, Trideceth-12 and Cetrimonium Chloride). The way it conditions is second to nothing.

  • Onur

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    February 25, 2024 at 11:58 am in reply to: What is your favorite mild surfactant (if price is not a concern)?

    I’ll answer the question in the title. My fav combo is:

    Sodium Lauroyl Methyl Isethionate
    Zinc Coceth Sulfate
    Sodium Cocoamphoacetate


    They’re very gentle and they do provide amazing foam and luxurious after-feel, especially for cleanser gel systems.

    For shampoos, my hair loves coco glucoside & glyceryl oleate combo along with CAPB & SCI. There’s no one-size-fits-all ingredient in cosmetics, each one might become handy for a particular purpose.

  • Onur

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    February 24, 2024 at 10:00 am in reply to: w/o cream

    Glyceryl Stearate is not a strong emulsifier on its own, usually paired with PEG-100 Stearate to make a true emulsifier. Cetearyl alcohol in the oil phase would also be useful to stabilize emulsions, and it’s rinse-friendly. I’d try some Sodium Stearoyl Glutamate, it’s very powerful even in tiny amounts for oil-heavy systems.

  • Onur

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    February 24, 2024 at 9:52 am in reply to: Hair foam formula turning cloudy

    Do you use distilled water? The essential oils or your Vitamin E might contain carrier oils that could cause cloudiness. You might want to reduce the amount of Vitamin E if it’s not necessary. Substitute the reduced amount with EDTA.

    Adding a minute amount of PEG-12 Dimethicone (like 0.5%) might be helpful to maintain the clarity of the formula, too.

  • Onur

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    February 24, 2024 at 9:42 am in reply to: Actives for extremely dry skin

    Urea + Sodium Lactate + Mineral oil

    That’s the most researched clinical combo to treat dryness and flaking. Yeah, nothing else heals faster.

  • Onur

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    February 24, 2024 at 9:34 am in reply to: I tried a formula by IPCS but it left my armpits red and itchy

    Hey, wishing you a speedy recovery!

    You might want to remove the preservatives and switch up your deodorant to something like Zinc Ricinoleate (maybe add a bit of rice bran wax to mimic Triethyl citrate’s effects). Then give it another patch test to see if these are what’s causing the issue. I’d also throw some Histidine to the formula for a better toleration.

  • Onur

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    February 20, 2024 at 4:56 am in reply to: Moroccan Argan DIY

    Moroccanoil treatment comes in two versions: the original one contains cyclopentasiloxane and has more dimethicone than cyclomethicone. The lighter version, on the other hand, doesn’t include any cyclopentasiloxane but has more cyclomethicone than dimethicone. So, it’s up to you, try both and choose whichever your hair loves best.

  • Onur

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    February 20, 2024 at 4:45 am in reply to: pink or brown in creams containing salicylic acid

    Mostly because of light and air exposure, which is oxidation. Impurities or interactions with other ingredients in the formulation might be the culprit, too.

  • Onur

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    February 20, 2024 at 4:41 am in reply to: Formulating a Clarifying shampoo to remove buildup

    I’d start with SLS/SLES or C14-15 Olefin Sulfonate to make a clarifying shampoo as those are very strong surfactants. Polyquats can be very sticky and a pain to rinse out of hair, so consider adding alcohol and glycerol since that’s what they dissolve in best. Plus, the glycerol will give some hydration in addition to helping break down the resin buildup.

    I’d add 2% salycilic acid and 4% niacinamide to help clear out the scalp, too.



  • Onur

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    February 20, 2024 at 4:10 am in reply to: Dimethiconol input for “argan” hair oil

    Those commercial clear-oil hair products are mostly silicones (over 90%) and only the little part is actually the oil they put on their labels. The hair would feel too greasy otherwise. Those companies usually reduce the stickiness by using esters like Isoamyl Laurate and/or C12-15 Alkyl Benzoate. They give a drier, more velvety feel to the formula.

  • Onur

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    February 20, 2024 at 3:50 am in reply to: Suspending agent for exfoliating agents

    Beads floating sounds like the formula is not thick enough. A gelling agent would help with the viscosity. I’d use HEC (Hydroxyethylcellulose) or Sodium Hyaluronate twice as much as the recommended amount to create a thicker gel for suspending things. The surfactants you use must be compatible with those agents, though. Try milder surfactants because waxes are considered lipids, which might partially dissolve in the formula.

  • Onur

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    February 20, 2024 at 3:35 am in reply to: Creating a tretinoin serum at home

    I wouldn’t recommend trying to mix up prescription-strength stuff at home because, well, they’re basically medicines.

    As for your question, retinoic acid and its derivatives are oil-soluble. So you’d need both oil and an emulsifier to whip up a stable mix with your hydrolized hyaluronic acid solution.

    Since most preservatives are sensitive to heat, you might want to consider a cold processed emulsifier. And yeah, you’d definitely have to add more preservatives.

    But just a heads up, this DIY journey would involve a lot of trial and error because you’re essentially trying to play pharmacist in your kitchen. Mmm, maybe try good old Retinol? Or even Retinal and not Tretinoin? ????



  • 1- Preservatives are usually considered safe if you stick to their recommended usage limits. But how does this rule apply to the whole product? Let’s think about it: If I’m slathering on a moisturizer sparingly on my face but going all out on my body—like, ten times more—then I’m basically soaking up those preservatives tenfold!

    Also, that particular product is only one of the many preservative-containing cosmetics/detergents we use everyday. So, what really backs up these limits? How can we guarantee safety regarding their potential genotoxicity with such high levels of use? Not obsessed with that “preservative-free, super organic, ultra natural” lifestyle but I’m simply curious about this topic.

    2- The skin tends to be slightly acidic, which is why products are typically formulated within the pH range of 5 to 6. Why isn’t a neutral pH, like 7 or even 8, as favored? Do we compromise the pH balance of our skin by showering, which involves rinsing with tap water at pH 7? And what about swimming in those thermal waters or seawater, which can have pH levels reaching up to 8.2?

  • Onur

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    February 24, 2024 at 10:06 am in reply to: Hair foam formula turning cloudy

    Yes. Oryzanol + Disodium EDTA.

  • Onur

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    February 21, 2024 at 5:05 am in reply to: Suspending agent for exfoliating agents

    They do actually, at higher concentrations.

    2% HEC in water gets insanely thick and would suspend those beads if they’re not too heavy. But I agree with you on the Carbomer, though they’re mostly pH sensitive.

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