Home Cosmetic Science Talk Formulating General Foam Booster for Natural Products

  • Bobzchemist

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    March 22, 2017 at 8:14 pm

    How do you define “Natural”?

  • OldPerry

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    March 22, 2017 at 8:38 pm

    @Bobzchemist - That is always the most important first question when talking about ‘natural’ cosmetics.

    By some definitions of natural, it is impossible to make a natural shampoo and body wash.  There are no shampoo bushes or body wash trees.

  • mikethair

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    March 22, 2017 at 10:29 pm

    We make “natural” body wash via saponification of whole plant oils. Agreed, not from a “body wash tree,” but perhaps a bit closer to nature than some of the synthetic surfactants currently in use. For manufacturers like us, the use of the word “natural” differentiates us from the majority using synthetic surfactants.   I know the word “natural” is a red flag to you guys, and I understand that.

    To the original question “…..they rarely foam and the testers have to pour so much to have a decent foam.”  Not a problem we have heard back from customers using our products made via saponification of whole plant oils. The secret is in the choice of oils. Our face wash is made from saponified extra virgin olive oil, and this does foam a bit less than the others, but is our biggest seller under our own brand and other brands we manufacture for. To-date have not had a single customer complaint.

  • ledafaze

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    March 23, 2017 at 7:52 am

    Well, I mean everything used in the production are Natural Produce and Oils mostly using African Black Soap as the soap base…

    …I am open to corrections.

  • Christopher

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    March 23, 2017 at 8:34 am

    @Perry There’s the soapnut tree though  :p

  • MarkBroussard

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    March 23, 2017 at 9:12 am

    Yes, there are actually two natural surfactants that I work with, one of them is NOP certified and, as Christopher pointed out, one is from the Soapnut Tree that has been used for centuries in South America.

    If you want a really good natural foamer take a look at Sodium Cocoyl Apple Amino Acids.

  • OldPerry

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    March 23, 2017 at 2:03 pm

    @Christopher - Indeed.

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