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Thanks @fareloz @Abdullah for the feedback. I decided to swap SCI for Sodium cocoyl glutamate.

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@Zoya

Any particular advice on the procedure? Sometimes I don’t know why I get crystalization. What I do is… I heat the SA with propanediol 1:15 ratio and then I mixed it with water and rest of ingredients.

Regards.

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Thank you. I have used successfully ratio 1:15 with propanediol. I wanted it to try with butylene glycol because I seen the combo sa +butylene a lot. Does anybody know what would be the advantages of butylene glycol over propanediol?

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@chemicalmatt Thanks for the advice. God bless!

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Thanks for the help @phil . It means a lot.

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thanks for replying back.

I don’t know if I have explained myself correctly, the dropplets don’t appear on the top of the product, but in the surface of the plastic bottle. I am experiencing condensation of the water content of my cream.

I have xanthan gum and guar gum so I could try adding one of them. But I would like to understand why or how could be ta thickener solution? Would they act like a water trap? (sorry If I sound stupid).

What I do is heat both oil phase and water phase for 20´low heat, then I add some water to compensate the water loss. After I pour the water phase into the oil phase and I blend with stick blender until the emulsion is formed. I stir from time to time until is cool and I add the preservative and lower the pH. Then I let the product sit all night and store it next day.

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Thanks for the replies 🙂

Apologies for not mentioning that… I use 0,2% EDTA, 3% glycerine and shea butter is refined.

This is my first time ever using this fragrance and this preservative system. I thought about using Germall Plus but I can’t use it in Europe. That’s why I wanted to give a shoot to this combo and see if it works for me. What I have learned in this group since joining it’s to use antifungi+antibacteria+ chelant

The cream that I normally use, before becoming a DIY, it’s Eucerin. This cream has a 5% panthenol, pH 5 and fragrance in a jar.

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I removed EDTA and that did the trick. The emulsion is stable either way using NaOH or EDTA. Granules appear when I use both. I think both react or the higher the pH the more EDTA messes around.

Now I wonder if Liquid Germall plus at .5% is enough or chelant is a must in my recipe.

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I use cornstarch to reduce shine and it works for me in a body butter

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you could add aloe vera and actually tea tree is good for scalp if itchiness is caused by dandrufff

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easiest thing to do it’s to add a rosemary or lavender hydrosol or you have already oils so you could add essential oils as well with the solubiliser you are using.

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@Perry Thank you. ????

@Cst4Ms4Tmps4 you look like Julian Cullen and I look like a Jackson 5. The shrinkage is real!! Let’s swap hair textures lol! 

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Thank you all! ????

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thank you all!

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I am among the folks that cant afford too much testing. I try to play it safe and I can’t thank you enough for your help. My go preservatives thanks to you are Phenoxy/EHG with some sodium benzo and EDTA; euxyl k 700 ( combo of phenoxy, benzyl alcohol and potassium sorbate) and Germall plus. I have sensitive skin so a bit of different preservatives work best for me rather than throwing in the highest % of a given preservative. I do have curiosity sometimes about other preservatives but I rather be safe than sorry.

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I appreciate your expert input. I will add some sodium benzoate. Whenever I add some sodium benzoate I do calculations doing the Henderson–Hasselbalch equation. I have read in this group before that in order for sodium benzoate to be effective there must be 0,1% in protonated form. Is that correct? Based on my calculations 0,25% is the needed amount at pH 4.5.

Thanks a lot!

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Your article was very helpful. Thank you so much.

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Thank you so much!

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Thanks a lot!! Thanks for your presence in this forum.

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pH is 5 for a body cream @Graillotion

Is it ok for sodium benzo?

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thank you

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I have tried TEA today and still I have granules

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ph is 4 without adjustment

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Leave-in conditioner

water phase: 73,6%

destilled water

aloe vera

raw honey

0,1 % edta

oil phase: 25%

mango butter

sweet almond oil

2% cetyl alcohol

5% btms-25

cool down:

0,5% Germall Plus

0,1% vitamin E

0,5% fragrance

0,3% allantoin

pH adjustment:

10 % NaOH solution q.s to pH= 6

container is a pump.

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Thanks for replying 🙂

.product is a leave-in conditioner. I haven’t had any stability issues with EDTA. I want a pH around 6 , so I tried using sodium phytate as chelant and pH raiser but the emulsion broke straight away. Now with NaOH I have granules, so I will try triethanolamine to see how it goes.

It´s possible to pass PET just with 0,5% Germall plus without chelant??

My hair is afro 4c.

I have checked the pH of the leave-in products that I buy an the pH is around 6.