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  • Making beauty greener: refillable packaging solutions

    Posted by Nyatou on June 14, 2023 at 6:33 pm

    Hi everybody,

    Hope everybody is doing OK.

    I would like to hear your opinions in this regard. Refilling pumps and jars with cosmetic products is very common in hotels and public centres, now some brands are also selling refills as a eco-friendly solution.

    Definitely it reduces production costs, but how safe for consumers is this practice?

    mikethair replied 11 months ago 5 Members · 15 Replies
  • 15 Replies
  • Abdullah

    Member
    June 14, 2023 at 8:55 pm

    In my experience cleaning a used bottle or pump of lotion is almost impossible.

  • PhilGeis

    Member
    June 15, 2023 at 6:07 am

    Bulk refilling pumps is a problem. Don’t!!

    There’s a bunch of reports of contamination - e.g. https://www.jstor.org/stable/26329181

    • Nyatou

      Member
      June 15, 2023 at 4:14 pm

      thank you

  • mikethair

    Member
    June 16, 2023 at 3:23 am

    I would check with your country’s cosmetics compliance authority. In our case I had our QC Manager do the checking with our local authorities and those of the destination countries of the brands we manufactured for, and in all cases, it was a no no.

    The only option we had was if the brands we were manufacturing for returned the used containers to us and these were cleaned under our GMP conditions. And cleaning pumps was mission impossible, therefore pumps needed to be replaced.

    And I question the eco-friendliness of this approach. Shipping empty containers back to us is not cost and carbon-free.

  • PhilGeis

    Member
    June 16, 2023 at 5:55 am

    Mike, can you say more re “no no”? Is this a regulation - is it local or national?

    • mikethair

      Member
      June 16, 2023 at 6:04 am

      It was “local” in Viet Nam and Malaysia (under the ASEAN Cosmetics Guidelines), and for the international brands we were manufacturing for. With the international brands, each product was Notified with the cosmetics regulation authorities of each destination country.

      • This reply was modified 11 months, 1 week ago by  mikethair.
      • PhilGeis

        Member
        June 16, 2023 at 6:05 am

        Can you share the reg?

        • mikethair

          Member
          June 16, 2023 at 6:15 am

          There is no one regulation covering all countries. For example, under the ASEAN Cosmetics Guidelines combined with the terms/conditions of our GMP Licence, there is no capacity for refilling returned bottles. And at the same time, our QC Manager asked the question during our regular compliance inspections.

          Similar applies to other countries.

          The best approach is to raise the question with the regulatory authority in your own country.

          And the reason I employed a QC Manager to sort out these issues. It is not a good idea to have bottle recycling raised and rejected during a GMP compliance inspection.

  • PhilGeis

    Member
    June 16, 2023 at 7:11 am

    We provided input drafting of ASEAN reg’s many years ago and don’t’ recall such a provision from that time. There is no such a reg in US.

    Please - many of us work in a global context. If ASEAN has installed relevant reg’s, we’d certainly like to know. Could you please ask your QC guy for specifics?

    • mikethair

      Member
      June 16, 2023 at 8:37 pm

      <div>Hi PhilGeis, within the ASEAN Cosmetics Guidelines there is no specific reference to the use of recycled containers. Which, in my opinion, is fair enough. Any container must comply with the GMP standards.</div><div>

      As a company, we went into this in great detail. But at the end of the day, the cost to our brands of returning the used containers, our cost of cleaning to meet the cosmetics compliance requirements, plus the carbon costs, it was just not economically viable or environmentally friendly.

      The other option was to supply local and international brands with bulk containers (we found 5 Kg the optimum size) where customer bottles could be refilled in-store. But again, the cosmetics compliance authorities, both local and international, had issues with this. There were two main objections: (1) in-bottle contamination of the customer-returned bottles being refilled and (2) contamination during the filling by in-store staff.

      The academic paper you cited (https://www.mdpi.com/2079-9284/9/2/27) gives some insight into how these objections could be mitigated, but most of these are impractical.

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      • PhilGeis

        Member
        June 17, 2023 at 8:51 am

        Thanks mike - agree, any bulk refill is high risk. What is the practice in public/group bathrooms?

        • mikethair

          Member
          June 17, 2023 at 10:02 pm

          What do you mean by”What is the practice in public/group bathrooms?

          It’s not a term I’m familiar with.

  • PhilGeis

    Member
    June 16, 2023 at 8:15 am

    Here are a couple of articles addressing cosmetic refills. 1st two by academics so take with a grain of salt, last by regulators so expect stupid stuff.

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2667378922000360

    https://www.emerald.com/insight/content/doi/10.1108/07363769810219134/full/html

    https://www.mdpi.com/2079-9284/9/2/27

    • This reply was modified 11 months, 1 week ago by  PhilGeis.
  • Microformulation

    Member
    June 17, 2023 at 2:55 pm

    I can’t provide too many details, but many of my clients are moving away from refillable products. Simply, the safety of your product relies upon the end user properly sanitizing the bottle and pump. Unfortunately, this is an area where there is low compliance. Some lines are moving towards cartridges and similar components. The expense of packaging is a barrier, so many of our lines have moved to components with other sustainability claims.

    • mikethair

      Member
      June 17, 2023 at 10:00 pm

      Yes, I would agree. For the compliance efforts required, brands can leverage other areas to gain more brand traction and increase revenue.

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