[jrusso531]

Crothix is a 3 on EWG. It is also a PEG ingredient. 

[jrusso531]

Thanks for your answer, since I know all the issues with ascorbic acid and water. The plan was to decrease the amount of free water in the formulation. 

em88 said:

50% glycerin? :worried:

[jrusso531]

Thank you for your answer. I appreciate you taking the time to help me out. My “foam” is a gas reaction I think between the ascorbic acid and the surfactants. 

JOJO91343 said:

If you feel it’s excessively foaming, it may be because of the high % of surfactants and the low % of water.  Some Manufacturers used to do that if they are using significantly Low Active surfactants.  For example using a certain brand of Sodium Lauryl Sulfate or Sodium Laureth Sulfate of 10% or 15% active.  So, they prefer to make most of the batch of this Low Active Surfactant (Because it’s cost efficient) and add significantly less water because if they add more water with this low active surfactants, they may not be able to build acceptable viscosity between these surfactants and the other batch ingredients.  The other issue is what types of surfactants you are using:  Anionic, Amphoteric, and/or Non-ionic.  If you’re using excessive amount of the anionic, this may be one of the reasons of excessive foaming.  Another issue is what is the reason of 50% Glycerin? Glycerin is usually used as solvent, Moisturizer, Humectant, or emollient.  It may not have much to do with cleansing.

[jrusso531]

I know surfactants are supposed to foam. Thanks for that.

Belassi said:

Surfactants are SUPPOSED to foam.

[jrusso531]

Can you change your order of addition? so you can high speed mix the guar gum & glycerin before you add it to the soap base?

[jrusso531]

try adding zeolite, it could possibly absorb the unpleasant odor.

[jrusso531]

are you sure there isn’t an active ingredient present in the formula you purchased? I’m sure that’s where they are borrowing the marketing from.

[jrusso531]

Look into Plantservative, even though its a preservative it has an extremely high pH naturally. Another option could be desadrops from Vevy Europe.

[jrusso531]

Hey curious what’s the rest of your formula just water? I would increase the alcohol concentration.

[jrusso531]

Add some Caprylyl Glycol at a low use level.

[jrusso531]

I’m just worried if I actually give into this project and they send it for testing and it won’t be anywhere near the 100 mark.

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Polysugamulse D9 from Colonial Chemicals.