GeorgeBenson
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I use SCI in a shampoo with a ph of 5 and it’s completely fine.
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@Camel I’m no expert but it looks pretty good to me. Do you need that much sodium phytate? Genuinely asking as I usually only use 0.1%.
Are you getting your shea surfactant from Simply Ingredients? I just received my first order of it from them and I find that it doesn’t foam very much but it leaves my skin feeling pretty soft…not as soft SCI does though. It’s pretty expensive too, no? They seem to be the only ones selling it…that I could find any way…maybe that’s why.
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@ngarayeva001 may i ask where you get your ultrez 30 from?
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@Graillotion any specific way you then mix the oil phase containing zen into the water or it doesn’t really matter?
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@Graillotion thanks!
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I have found that when working with surfactants it becomes very tricky the more ingredients i add, so for those i like to use as few as possible.
I recently made my first gel cream however and i basically put everything that i could think of in it. Somehow i got lucky because it actually turned out to
be truly incredible and, at least so far, stable (polymers are wonderful things, I’m learning). It actually completely fixed this dry patch on my face i’ve had for about a year now that nothing else i put on it would! I have no way of knowing which ingredient(s) is working the magic there so i’m just gonna keep it exactly how it is.@Microformulation what is your definition of overly complicated and why are these unrealistic at scale?
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@Graillotion what ratio do you typically use when solubilizing oils with it? I know it varies greatly with the type of oil but for instance if I am currently using Polysorbate 20/EO at 4:1 is it typical to use about the same amount of TEC, or less/more?
And does it ever cause a ph drift downward?
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@Graillotion i dont know the answers to your question about soaping but i really want to try TEC, i’ve been curious about it for a while. Is there anywhere to buy it in smaller amounts? I havent seen it anywhere. You said you use it in deodorant, does it help deodorize?
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@Chemaccounts maybe the HPMC wasn’t fully dissolved?
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@Graillotion oh no BA is not on the up and up?! That’s too bad. I think I get MCT oil from them. Very happy with jedwards and the others though.
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@Graillotion i believe i’ve come across the same shady seller, that seemed to have every oil and they were impossibly
cheap and would aways ship from india. Think I still have some of their stuff laying around. I also thought about getting their stuff tested but had no idea, and still have no idea, how to do that.Now I get most of my oils from Jedwards, is this one of the reputable sellers you were talking about? They seem legit. What are some other ones? -
Awesome thanks for the input everyone I will try these out
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@ngarayeva001 That’s pretty impressive I’ll have to try this one out! What other polymers do you like to mix it with and for what type of product?
As for Sepimax Zen, what’s the best way to use this polymer? Can it be used in a cold process like the other polymers mentioned here?
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@emma1985 nice videos! I’ve read that you shouldn’t use high shear mixing with polymers but you seem to be using your stick blender on the last video without problems, so is that not true or do you just have to be careful with it?
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@emma1985 i really want to try aristoflex but unfortunately my current formula contains electrolytes. Please do link your aristoflex videos, i would love to see them. Thanks!
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Thanks for the input ya’ll.
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I really wish there was a place to get aqua sf-1/sf-2 in small quantities. All the suspending fun I’m missing out on…
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How about Sorbithix L-100? Works great for me at just 1.5-2%
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@ketchito interesting, thank you!
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@BettiB may i ask what company that screenshot is from? I am looking to purchase a couple of the mixing blades in that picture.
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@Paprik I use HPMC using a method almost identical to what @missmorganlang described above and it works great in my shampoo. Love it. I tried using HEC once or twice but it didn’t work for me, always separated.
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I don’t know the answer to your questions, but I am curious what you think of SSL? What kind of products do you typically use it for and what do you like/dislike about its properties?
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I have used Iselux Ultra Mild and did not find salt to work very well to thicken it. Iselux SFS on the other hand is very easily thickened with salt.
I have had success using HPMC, Polyquaternium-10, and Sorbithix to thicken. There are many PEG-type thickeners too such as crothix but I haven’t used those.
Xanthan will thicken but I find even the soft grade does give it an undesirable (to some) texture as well as making it harder to rinse off.Also, just using a higher percentage of ultra mild will make for a much thicker soap.
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I was recently quoted $2,500/kg from two different suppliers!
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Haven’t had a chance to dive in yet, hopefully soon.