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  • Clear Face Wash Gel goes cloudy

    Posted by Chemaccounts on April 15, 2022 at 3:02 pm

    I am trying to formulate Clear bubble face wash/cleanser gel but ended up with dull and not shiny clear final product any advise?
    My formulation is as 

    Sles 10
    Cabp 2
    Cdea 2
    Edta 0.2
    D penthanol .15
    PG 3
    Glyscrine 5
    HPMC .05 (tried without it too)
     Carbopol .05 tried without it too
    Alovera gel 2
    Citric qs
    Aqua qs

    Chemaccounts replied 2 years, 1 month ago 6 Members · 10 Replies
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  • Abdullah

    Member
    April 16, 2022 at 1:10 am

    Use only surfactants and HPMC. It will be clear. Then add each other ingredient one by one and see which one is the cause.

  • Camel

    Member
    April 16, 2022 at 4:58 am

    Did you mean 0.05% or 0.5% for the HPMC and Carbomer? 

    May as well remove the panthenol; it will only be rinsed down the drain and not deposited onto your skin. The aloe vera gel is likely unnecessary as well. 

    I suggest following @Abdullah‘s advice to determine the cause of the cloudiness. 

  • ketchito

    Member
    April 18, 2022 at 1:35 pm

    @Chemaccounts What is the pH of your final formula? 

  • Chemaccounts

    Member
    April 18, 2022 at 3:51 pm

    ketchito said:

    @Chemaccounts What is the pH of your final formula? 

    Final PH is btwn 5 to 6.Camel said:

    Did you mean 0.05% or 0.5% for the HPMC and Carbomer? 

    May as well remove the panthenol; it will only be rinsed down the drain and not deposited onto your skin. The aloe vera gel is likely unnecessary as well. 

    I suggest following @Abdullah‘s advice to determine the cause of the cloudiness. 

    Thank you for your reaponse i tried without HPMC , alovera and Carbopol , product was clear but not that much also texture i ws looking for not achieved (looking for a clear with shiny bubbles ) but infusion of HPMC also affecting clarity and carbopol is making it worst..  i researched last night about infusion of acrylates/C10-30 visited mkt couldnt find hooe it will give clear shiny texture with tiny bubbles.. two other ingridients i m looking forward to incorporate is Menthyle Lactate and Salicylic Acid by droping carbopol , alovera , D penthanol. Any comments or suggested formulation in this regard will be highly helpful.. thanks stay blessed

  • Chemaccounts

    Member
    April 18, 2022 at 3:53 pm

    ketchito said:

    @Chemaccounts What is the pH of your final formula? 

    Final PH is btwn 5 to 6.Camel said:

    Did you mean 0.05% or 0.5% for the HPMC and Carbomer? 

    May as well remove the panthenol; it will only be rinsed down the drain and not deposited onto your skin. The aloe vera gel is likely unnecessary as well. 

    I suggest following @Abdullah‘s advice to determine the cause of the cloudiness. 

    Thank you for your reaponse i tried without HPMC , alovera and Carbopol , product was clear but not that much also texture i ws looking for not achieved (looking for a clear with shiny bubbles ) but infusion of HPMC also affecting clarity and carbopol is making it worst..  i researched last night about infusion of acrylates/C10-30 visited mkt couldnt find hooe it will give clear shiny texture with tiny bubbles.. two other ingridients i m looking forward to incorporate is Menthyle Lactate and Salicylic Acid by droping carbopol , alovera , D penthanol. Any comments or suggested formulation in this regard will be highly helpful.. thanks stay blessed

    Hpmc was taken .05% 

  • GeorgeBenson

    Member
    April 18, 2022 at 7:36 pm

    @Chemaccounts maybe the HPMC wasn’t fully dissolved?

  • Chemaccounts

    Member
    April 19, 2022 at 5:29 am

    It was disolved in hot water and converted into gel then incorporated other way was dosolved in glycerine both tried 

  • ketchito

    Member
    April 19, 2022 at 11:47 am

    @Chemaccounts Could you add some base (like NaOH) to increase pH up to 7 or up, to see if clarity increases?  

  • evchem2

    Member
    April 19, 2022 at 2:50 pm

    Have you tried thickening with just salt? and are the percentages for your surfactants  the active matter %? CAPB often comes as ~30% solution for example

  • Chemaccounts

    Member
    April 23, 2022 at 10:49 am

    ketchito said:

    @Chemaccounts Could you add some base (like NaOH) to increase pH up to 7 or up, to see if clarity increases?  

    ok i will try this way 

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