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  • evchem2

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    November 3, 2022 at 8:42 pm in reply to: Why some water float above product?

    You have a very small oil phase, so w/o which is already a difficult system to stabilize is even more unlikely to form because of the high amount of internal (dispersed) phase vs the extremely low continuous phase, on top of the other issues already mentioned. 

  • evchem2

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    November 2, 2022 at 12:35 pm in reply to: Dipropylene Glycol as an odour masking agent

    You can try deoplex from carrubba for odor masking

  • evchem2

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    November 2, 2022 at 12:31 pm in reply to: Colored Chapstick that does not tint the lip

    Color cosmetics isn’t my wheelhouse but my thinking is: go the dye route for no tint (lakes if your formula is anhydrous, though I’d be concerned these might have some payoff) - if you are US based check the allowed dyes/lakes for contact with mouth Part 74, Subpart C: 

    Alternatively look at burts bees or similar commercial product you want to mimic and check what ingredients they are using.

  • evchem2

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    October 24, 2022 at 1:18 pm in reply to: Why adding buffer to semi-permanent hair dyes?

    Haven’t worked on these kinds of products, but my guess is maintaining certain pH range could be important for the dyes used and their stability.

  • comments above make sense to me. On an unrelated note, how do you incorporate both xanthan and cationic guar? Are you worried about any long term instability since you have both anionic and cationic polymer in your formulation?

  • evchem2

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    October 17, 2022 at 2:57 pm in reply to: Mist Stability Help

    Better actuators- packaging can influence the spray pattern. Glycerin shouldn’t be separating from a water based serum, you have something else going on

  • evchem2

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    October 7, 2022 at 2:06 pm in reply to: Aloe Vera Gel Carbomer Choice. Help

     Carbomer is not a great choice for this kind of system because it will function best (in terms of clarity and viscosity building) at pH closer to neutral.  Even the ultrez grade is still not very electrolyte tolerant and you have plenty of salt sources. Check out the lubrizol website or UL prospector if you have access. 

    Additionally, your preservation system will see huge drop off inefficacy as pH increases. Those salts should really be used for systems where pH is <5. 

    Your system doesn’t add up to 100% by quite a bit, is there a typo or are you excluding ingredients? Either way if your water phase is really only ~60%, you cannot make a “100%” aloe gel, the aloe can only reconstitute in the available water. There’s also some debate about the labelling (at least in US) if you can really list your INCI as Aloe juice when what you intentionally added is Aloe powder.

    So you may want to either choose a new preservative system that works at neutral pH so you can keep carbomer- you’ll still likely need excess because of the aloe, or a different rheology modifier (xanthan gum for example, the grade you get will impact the final appearance greatly but it can handle lower pH and salt)

  • evchem2

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    October 6, 2022 at 7:55 pm in reply to: Aloe Vera Gel Carbomer Choice. Help

    What pH is your formulation at?

  • evchem2

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    October 5, 2022 at 2:57 pm in reply to: What is cause? Hec is swells

    At 5.5 sodium benzoate is mostly in the salt form which is ineffective as a preservative. Agree with other comments on that you need to switch to a different preservation strategy. 

  • evchem2

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    October 5, 2022 at 2:55 pm in reply to: gelling agents for glycerin??

    Bar Gel G from Barnet Products (INCI: Polyglyceryl-10 tristearate) works to some extent, but I’m not sure if they still carry that product.

    Kelco-Care from CP Kelco/Lubrizol (INCI: Sphingomonas ferment extract) will also work, though without heat it may take a day or two to see full hydration.

  • evchem2

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    September 27, 2022 at 1:17 pm in reply to: Food grade modified starch used in cosmetic

    I would say the only possible concern is maybe micro count, sometimes the food spec is higher since the products  generally have shorter shelf life

  • evchem2

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    September 15, 2022 at 7:21 pm in reply to: need help with mineral sunscreen / pilling off when applying on skin

    I don’t know what specific grades of xg and HEC you’re using but they could be contributing to pilling (esp in combination with the starch and silica), can I ask why you’re using all 4?  

  • evchem2

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    September 2, 2022 at 1:35 pm in reply to: Help with defining gel (for curly hair)

    I agree with what’s already been said- I  also think you could drop the coconut oil to  just claims level (0.01%), it’s not functional for your formula and will just make it harder to have clarity, require higher usage level of PEG-40… based on that benchmark I’d say your 1% line is right after the VP/VA

  • We had a storage tank inline from our filtration/purification system- I’m not sure how storing in the production tank would work. You would probably want to validate you are able to totally disinfect the tank, maybe let some water sit in the tank for your worst-case timeline and test? I can see it being very demanding if you go that route so the second tank may end up being less costly in terms of time/ liability.

  • evchem2

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    August 23, 2022 at 12:58 pm in reply to: what preservative can i use for my conditionner

    I’d opt for liquid germall for preservation, but use level might be closer to 0.5%. Which form of vitamin E are you using? If it’s tocopheryl acetate it’s pointless and you should switch to tocopherol or eliminate entirely

  • evchem2

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    August 22, 2022 at 1:00 pm in reply to: Hi friends EGDS is not available more

    EGMS is also used for pearlizing, you may be able to get opacity from the fatty alcohols you have currently but not pearl.

  • i couldn’t find anything comparing different acids but some suppliers have charts like you’re describing for their individual preservatives

  • evchem2

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    August 16, 2022 at 4:46 pm in reply to: Difference between HDPE vs polyethylene plastic

    HDPE is high density polyethylene, it is polyethylene but has different properties than lower density

    https://sciencing.com/differences-hdpe-plastic-polyethylene-plastic-6807965.html
    https://omicoplastics.com/blog/ldpe-hdpe-similarities-and-differences/

  • evchem2

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    August 16, 2022 at 4:43 pm in reply to: Emulsification Question

    Is it very thick? Sea moss could be improperly labeled carrageenan which would not act as an emulsifier but maybe it could stabilize the system enough if the oil content is low. But agree with the others, they could just have left out the emulsifier altogether from the LOI

  • evchem2

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    August 10, 2022 at 9:04 pm in reply to: Distilled water contamination

    @Anca_Formulator i see thanks for clarifying. I’ve never used the paddle culture, but isn’t it the same issue? The paddle’s been exposed to air for the past 3 months?  Even if the kit is not expired once you’ve exposed it I think the most reliable results are probably the ones after the ~120 hours/whatever the paddle supplier recommends.

  • evchem2

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    August 10, 2022 at 12:34 pm in reply to: Distilled water contamination

    You’ve had the jug open for 3 months? I’m not surprised something would show up after continual opening and reuse

  • evchem2

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    August 5, 2022 at 1:59 pm in reply to: Water resistant face cream(pearl)

    What kind of zinc- particle size, coated vs uncoated? 
    When you say it didn’t work, in what way- emulsion failed, desired effect not present at all or not present enough?

  • You don’t have a lot of surfactant, so even though salt can help thicken it may not be enough to build viscosity like you’re hoping for. Did you make a salt curve for your formula? You also already have acrylates and HEC thickening, so why add salt on top?

    I second Abdullah that Glycol stearate should have a better pearlescent look. You can also try heating your base and cooling slowly, this should help the glycol stearate form some larger crystals that create the effect you’re hoping for. If you don’t want to heat the whole base, you can buy a premade pearl blend for cold-process use, or try to create your own premix.

    https://knowledge.ulprospector.com/5647/pcc-adding-pearlescence-in-cosmetics/

  • evchem2

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    July 25, 2022 at 12:20 pm in reply to: Why did acacia gum turn my flax seed gel grey?

    @Farah - I’d say yes to overhead mixer before homogenizer. Being able to get different blades will allow you work on a variety of product types, the homogenizer can help with stability but I think  you can still achieve a lot without it. I do think you’re right about the stir bar solution mixing too, especially if you’re using xanthan and guar together. The tea sieve should work decently well

  • evchem2

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    July 21, 2022 at 1:26 pm in reply to: Why did acacia gum turn my flax seed gel grey?

    @Farah yes the drill with its various blades would mimic what overhead stirrers do. For homogenizers they are really more rotor stator types (at least from my experience), the benchtop version is usually something like a silverson or a rotosolver.  Your immersion blender may replicate some of the high shear, but will also likely bring in air if you can’t control the speed.

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