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  • what preservative can i use for my conditionner

    Posted by Glodie on August 23, 2022 at 11:42 am

    hi all i need help with my formula and have a chemist input on my conditionner, would like to have ask about the best preservative i can use since i am using flaxeed gel, and are these percentage okay to use

    water phase
    flaxeed boiled in distilled water        76.5%
    CETAC  30%                                       5%
    honeyquat. or glycerine                      3%
    guar hydroxypropyltrimonium.          0.5%

    oil phase

    coconut oil.           6%
    btms25                 4% can i use btms85???
    cetyl alcohol.         2%
     
    cool down
    panthenol.                                                     1%

    euxyl pe9010 0r liquid germal plus ?????        1%
    vitamin E                                                        0.5%
    fragrance.                                                     0.5%

    Glodie replied 1 year, 7 months ago 5 Members · 12 Replies
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  • evchem2

    Member
    August 23, 2022 at 12:58 pm

    I’d opt for liquid germall for preservation, but use level might be closer to 0.5%. Which form of vitamin E are you using? If it’s tocopheryl acetate it’s pointless and you should switch to tocopherol or eliminate entirely

  • PhilGeis

    Member
    August 23, 2022 at 2:01 pm

    Agree re Germall + and add EDTA - you could also use Kathon/Na benzoate/EDTA

  • Glodie

    Member
    August 23, 2022 at 8:04 pm

    evchem2 said:

    I’d opt for liquid germall for preservation, but use level might be closer to 0.5%. Which form of vitamin E are you using? If it’s tocopheryl acetate it’s pointless and you should switch to tocopherol or eliminate entirely

    i was thinking about acetate thank you

  • Glodie

    Member
    August 23, 2022 at 8:06 pm

    PhilGeis said:

    Agree re Germall + and add EDTA - you could also use Kathon/Na benzoate/EDTA
    how much EDTA can i add @PhilGeis THANK YOU
  • PhilGeis

    Member
    August 24, 2022 at 10:35 am

    shoot for 1000  ppm as acid

  • Glodie

    Member
    August 24, 2022 at 11:39 am

    PhilGeis said:

    shoot for 1000  ppm as acid

    thank you

  • Ahlmeyer

    Member
    August 27, 2022 at 6:01 pm

    6% oils is to much for a conditioner. Replace is with max 2 or 3 % . I recommend the Pe 9010

  • Glodie

    Member
    August 28, 2022 at 9:53 pm

    Ahlmeyer said:

    6% oils is to much for a conditioner. Replace is with max 2 or 3 % . I recommend the Pe 9010

    @Ahlmeyer thank you

  • Anna_Maria

    Member
    August 29, 2022 at 10:21 am

    Glodie said:

    hi all i need help with my formula and have a chemist input on my conditionner, would like to have ask about the best preservative i can use since i am using flaxeed gel, and are these percentage okay to use

    water phase
    flaxeed boiled in distilled water        76.5%
    CETAC  30%                                       5%
    honeyquat. or glycerine                      3%
    guar hydroxypropyltrimonium.          0.5%

    oil phase

    coconut oil.           6%
    btms25                 4% can i use btms85???
    cetyl alcohol.         2%
     
    cool down
    panthenol.                                                     1%

    euxyl pe9010 0r liquid germal plus ?????        1%
    vitamin E                                                        0.5%
    fragrance.                                                     0.5%

    Isn’t 5% CETAC 30% too much ?

  • PhilGeis

    Member
    August 29, 2022 at 10:53 am

    1% is excessive 9010 or Germall +.  Suggest not much > 5000 ppm.   And do add a chealtor - esp. EDTA.
    Germall + is conceptually a better choice as it targets Gram +/- bacteria and fungi while 9010 targets primarily Gram neg bacteria.  However, Gram neg bacteria are the most common contaminants for conditioner products.

  • Glodie

    Member
    August 29, 2022 at 4:15 pm

    Glodie said:

    hi all i need help with my formula and have a chemist input on my conditionner, would like to have ask about the best preservative i can use since i am using flaxeed gel, and are these percentage okay to use

    water phase
    flaxeed boiled in distilled water        76.5%
    CETAC  30%                                       5%
    honeyquat. or glycerine                      3%
    guar hydroxypropyltrimonium.          0.5%

    oil phase

    coconut oil.           6%
    btms25                 4% can i use btms85???
    cetyl alcohol.         2%
     
    cool down
    panthenol.                                                     1%

    euxyl pe9010 0r liquid germal plus ?????        1%
    vitamin E                                                        0.5%
    fragrance.                                                     0.5%

    Isn’t 5% CETAC 30% too much ?

    @anna maria how much would u suggest i use?

  • Glodie

    Member
    August 29, 2022 at 4:16 pm

    PhilGeis said:

    1% is excessive 9010 or Germall +.  Suggest not much > 5000 ppm.   And do add a chealtor - esp. EDTA.
    Germall + is conceptually a better choice as it targets Gram +/- bacteria and fungi while 9010 targets primarily Gram neg bacteria.  However, Gram neg bacteria are the most common contaminants for conditioner products.

    @@PhilGeis thank you

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