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Pattsi said:

Perry said:

3. Do you really need to wear sunscreen every day? or indoors?

There’re only recommendations in textbooks.

Antony R. Young
-Risks versus benefits of population UVR exposure

I’m on frequent use side if you are at risk of skin cancer, especially Aussies basicly you are white living in hot sun.

Indoors? - I have not found anything on this yet.

let’s ask what would be the worse reasons for big companies for saying that we should apply sunscreen everyday and every two hours? 

1. To give them our money continually by purchasing and applying there sunscreens.
2. To give them more money continually by purchasing vitamin D and calcium supplements because we no longer get vit D from sun.
3. To give them more and more money continually by purchasing blood pressure drugs because we are preventing sun which is very effective in controlling blood pressure to apply to our skin.
4. To give them more and more and more money by purchasing there tanning products.
5. To give them even more money by purchasing their Products for other skin problems because black people and those who’s skins are more exposed to sun have better skin than white people and those who always hide themselves from sun.

What would be the best reason for them to say that sun is good for skin?
They don’t have any reason to say so because they would lose Bellions of money if they do so.

And one more question; how many cases of skin cancer because of sun exposure are there?

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Is this a commercial Shampoo or just a formula that you want to make? 

Evey Shampoo is cleaning Shampoo. If it is not cleaning then it is not Shampoo.

If it is a commercial Product and ingredients are listed like this then don’t trust the label because they don’t know what should they write and how to write it on label.

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You have to try and see if it works or not. 

Sometimes by trying we find things about an ingredient that no one has said before even the supplier.

For example the best way of adding HPMC for me is to first add it to small amount of hot water, then add that to cold water, then increase the pH. 

No one says this is a way of hydrating it but it is the that works best for me. 

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PhilGeis said:

Abdullah said:

The question i think about several times a day is what does the companies that sell the largest amount of beauty products for example Shampoo do that people are buying there Products instead of there competitors?

The simple answers that every one would give is good marketing or good quality or affordable price. But this is not the right answer. If you do good job at these parts your sells will not increase or increase for a short time and then decrease again to the level before.

So what are they doing or have done that they have succeeded this much? 

You +/- describe P&G’s basic practice that has been successful globally with Pantene and Head&Shoulders - quality with effective product and advertising/ marketing.  Tho’ can add continued product improvements/”news’ - real or contrived.  
What may not be evident is the “effective” element both for product development and advertising/marketing.  Knowing consumers - what they want and what appeals to them - as well a investing in the technology  so products are (and perceived as) more effective.  There are peripheral elements shelf placement , response to consumer complaints, active patent defense, etc.

Thanks ????

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Hydration of hec at different pH and temperature

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This is how to hydrate different thickners

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The question i think about several times a day is what does the companies that sell the largest amount of beauty products for example Shampoo do that people are buying there Products instead of there competitors?

The simple answers that every one would give is good marketing or good quality or affordable price. But this is not the right answer. If you do good job at these parts your sells will not increase or increase for a short time and then decrease again to the level before.

So what are they doing or have done that they have succeeded this much? 

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What does it do in your formula?
How do you know it works? 
What happens to your formula if you don’t add tocopheryl acetate? 

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@Perry thanks 

So why would they list it as skin protectant in such small quantity? 

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I mean mix it for 10 minutes or 20 minutes or longer until everything is homogenized. 

For samples 2 minutes mixing is enough for me

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Use homogenizer or use immersion blender for long time until everything is emulsified

Make sure the temperature is above the melting point of evey ingredient

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@EVchem @Microformulation thanks 

In this list Colloidal oatmeal, 0.007 percent minimum; 0.003 percent minimum in combination with mineral oil is a skin protectant. Is it really that effective at such small quantity? 

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Graillotion said:

Abdullah said:

@Graillotion did you add %0.1 active GLDA or solution? 
If solution, how much GLDA is in the solution? 

The .1% GLDA goes into the beaker first….then all the water goes in second….and so on and so forth.  So all the water and the GLDA are in the beaker by themselves for a short amount of time…I guess I would consider that a solution.

……….Oh maybe I misunderstood your question…I use the liquid form, which is 50% active ingredient….so I guess in reality…I am using .05%.

Thanks 
What did you add next and next untel cationic? 

Have you checked the compatibility of GLDA and cationic by adding only these two in water or GLDA with any water soluble cationic in water to see if they form insoluble salt or not?

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@PhilGeis thanks ????

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@Graillotion did you add %0.1 active GLDA or solution? 
If solution, how much GLDA is in the solution? 

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@Pharma can I ask for achieving what effect did you suggest silicone elastomer instead of HPC? 

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@Microformulation my focus is less on foam and more in preventing calcium attachment to hair and removing attached calcium from hair. Would it be helpful for this? 

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@Perry @singhc10 thanks 
I should be careful with information on internet. 

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@Microformulation thanks
How was the water hardness with liquid Shampoo? 

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@Pharma @PhilGeis this product doesn’t have anything other than water and chelating agent. Why would microbes grow there?

How much phytic acid and hexametaphosphate makes 1L hard water soft? 

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@PhilGeis thanks

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@Pharma no, pH of the Shampoo is 5. 

I thought the pH of Shampoo and chelating agent in Shampoo will have effect in hardness of water with which we wash our hair. Is my thoughts wrong?

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@Pharma how about us?

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I don’t think GLDA is compatible with cationic surfactants. You can check the compatibility first.