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  • Suggestions on this conditioner formula

    Posted by Abdullah on August 1, 2021 at 2:49 am

    I like silicones a lot. I use Amodimethicone in shampoo and also want to make conditioner based on it. 

    I have made this conditioner formula. I like that. Any suggestions to improve it would be appreciated. 

    Water 
    Amodimethicone (and) Cetrimonium Chloride (and) Trideceth-12  6% (1.8% active silicone)
    Guar gum non-ionic  1%
    Phenoxyethanol+caprylyl Glycol 1%
    Lavender essential oil 0.5%
    Citric acid 
    pH 4.1

    1. Does cationic surfactants increase the deposition of Amodimethicone in hair? 

    2. Does cationic guar gum in conditioner increase the deposition of Amodimethicone in hair? 

    3. Is this amount of silicone enough in hair conditioner or what is the maximum amount of Amodimethicone used in conditioner?

    4. Any other suggestions to improve the deposition of Amodimethicone?

    5. Any other suggestions to improve the overall quality of conditioner? 

    Abdullah replied 2 years, 10 months ago 2 Members · 3 Replies
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  • OldPerry

    Member
    August 2, 2021 at 2:12 pm

    Normally, something like Cetyl or Stearyl Alcohol would also be included in a conditioner formula to give some opacity / thickness / body to the texture.

    1.  Maybe but perhaps not in a noticeable way.
    2.  The supplier will say it does. I’m a little skeptical consumers would notice
    3.  Yes, 1.8% is plenty. You probably don’t need more than 1%
    4.  No.
    5. Already said.

  • Abdullah

    Member
    August 3, 2021 at 6:32 am

    @Perry thanks a lot

  • Abdullah

    Member
    August 3, 2021 at 2:00 pm

    @Perry ibi add cationic surfactant like BTMS to this, should i aim for ~1% total conditioning ingredients ( cationic surfactants+Amodimethicone) or 1% Amodimethicone and 1 or 2% cationic surfactants? 

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