What gives a dry silky feeling....30 min after application.

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What gives a dry silky feeling….30 min after application.

Posted by Graillotion on July 18, 2021 at 2:16 am

I am working on the finishing touches of a hand cream. There is one aspect where it falls short. 30 min after application, the product has a little drag on the back of the hand, from the crosspolymers. It goes on fine, and since I am using primarily quick hitting oils and emollients, the main presences on the skin surface, after 30 minutes, seems to be the crosspolymers. I am only using them at 1%…so reduction is not really an option.

I would prefer something powdery and silky, 30 minutes after application. Is this where the silicas would finish a product like this perfectly? I need something that remains on the surface unobtrusively and dry.

Already using behenyl alcohol, Polymethylsilsesquioxane and many other ‘powdery’ ingredients.

Pattsi replied 2 years, 10 months ago 4 Members · 10 Replies
10 Replies

Pattsi

Member
July 19, 2021 at 12:37 pm

Maybe you should go fancy with Nylon-12.
Abdullah

Member
July 19, 2021 at 4:22 pm

Have you tried Dimethicone/Vinyl Dimethicone Crosspolymer?
RedCoast

Member
July 19, 2021 at 11:35 pm

Can you get your hands on LexFeel Natural yet?
Graillotion

Member
July 20, 2021 at 3:17 am

Abdullah said:

Have you tried Dimethicone/Vinyl Dimethicone Crosspolymer?

Hehehe….that was the EXACT ingredient….causing the problem!

First….I am hyper sensitive to stuff…I feel everything… This goes on great….in formula…and even neat….but after 30 minutes…seems to have something residual I associate with drag. Only occurred after this ingredient was added.
RedCoast

Member
July 20, 2021 at 5:33 am

@Graillotion I think silicas would be a good idea, based previous “mattifying” lotions I’ve used. All the best ones had silica in them, though I’m not sure from which supplier.

How do you feel about kaolin? It’s also a mattifying agent. Funnily enough, certain grades of kaolin qualify as skin protectants!
Graillotion

Member
July 20, 2021 at 5:58 am

RedCoast said:

Can you get your hands on LexFeel Natural yet?

A cursory glance on the net….does not appear available in small quantities.

I did request a sample on ULP.
Graillotion

Member
July 20, 2021 at 6:03 am

RedCoast said:

@Graillotion I think silicas would be a good idea, based previous “mattifying” lotions I’ve used. All the best ones had silica in them, though I’m not sure from which supplier.

I should get my silica tomorrow. However I will have guests for the next week….so will not have a chance to play with it….for about 10 days.
RedCoast

Member
July 20, 2021 at 7:18 am

Graillotion said:

I should get my silica tomorrow. However I will have guests for the next week….so will not have a chance to play with it….for about 10 days.

Noooooo! Can you sneak a little experiment or two? Just tell them it’ll only take 25 minutes!
Graillotion

Member
July 20, 2021 at 7:29 am

RedCoast said:

Graillotion said:

I should get my silica tomorrow. However I will have guests for the next week….so will not have a chance to play with it….for about 10 days.

Noooooo! Can you sneak a little experiment or two? Just tell them it’ll only take 25 minutes!

You have never seen my formulas….hehehe….try two hours….start to finish!
Pattsi

Member
July 20, 2021 at 8:45 am

Why can’t you down Dimethicone/Vinyl Dimethicone Crosspolymer to 0.5 or 0.X , is it a request from buyer?
There is silica-coated silicone powder, can’t remember the name, sorry.

What gives a dry silky feeling….30 min after application.