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Coco glucoside doea

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I think thapt guar+ pq7+ 2% amodimethicone emulsion is too much. You can reduce everything by half.

Can you write the details of your amodimethicone emulsion?

I couldn’t find it on internet.

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@ketchito would adding a cold process emulsifier like polyglyceryl 4 laurate help the stability?

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Can you write the formula

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Increase CAPB

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I have seen the patent. They use these amounts of glycerin and acids because they can be dissolved in these ratios. Not because they are more effective.

For example if you increase the amount of an acid or don’t use that glycerin the Product would crystalize.

So it is a good idea to use some extra acid with this preservative.

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@Pharma i have this problem too.

You can write your comment, go one step back and then try to write it again. Now you will be able to comment it.

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As jojoba oil reduces sebum production, maybe they think it is closest to sebum so our body thinks there is enough sebum and reduces sebum production

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Ok

Thanks

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What happened after march 2023?

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Thanks

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Thanks

Will hydroxypropyl distarch phosphate work the same as hydroxypropyl starch phosphate?

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Wow

That is very good then

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Thanks

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Got it

Thanks you

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Got it

Thanks ????

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Thanks

How can i check for water contamination?

And more important, what is the least expensive way to make the water contamination free?

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I don’t know that one unfortunately.

Is it only Pseudomonas aeruginosa that is in water or other bacteria’s too?

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It is filtered water. We purchase it.

This is the specifications of water.

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Got it.

So it is not a good idea.

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Good

I will not have standing water in it. I usually just spray hypochlorite inside the tank for 30 minutes and then rinse with process water.

For these tanks i want to spray hypochlorite, dont rinse it and let it dry there. Is this ok?

Tanks are metal but not SS. I don’t know the metal name in english but it is commonly used for water storage in houses.

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Do you mean pq10 or 7?

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Thanks

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I have made sample whith CAPB and another with replacing 50% of CAPB with APG and compared them. Samples had cationic guar and amodimethicone emulsion.

The sample with CAPB+APG had less conditioning effect than CAPB alone as co surfactant.

That is why this chart that shows amphoacetate+APG as co surfactant is better than amphoacetate alone was interesting to me.

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Thanks

I didn’t know nacl reduces deposition and i was always trying to add more nacl because i thought the opposite it true.

I Will change all my formulas to use less nacl.

This chart is from supplier that is selling amphoacetate.

I was hoping if there is any synergy because amphoacetate is very expressive and glucoside inexpensive.

Some more questions

1. Will more nacl reduce the deposition of cationic guar from SLES/CAPB formula that doesn’t have silicone or any other lipophilic ingredient too?

2. How does deposition from sultaine compare to CAPB in same SLES/cosurfactant/cationic guar/amodimethicone formula?

I can purchase sultaine at almost the same price as CAPB if that is a good replacement.