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  • How to make fragrance last longer in hair when using shampoo?

    Posted by 1501 on January 19, 2021 at 2:30 am

    Hello, It’s me again. 
    Today I want to ask: When we do the shampoo, how to make fragrance last longer in hair?
    A friend said if I mix fragrance with silicone before adding to shampoo, the fragrance will last longer. Is it right? 

    MelindaNicole replied 2 years, 11 months ago 8 Members · 9 Replies
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  • Dr Catherine Pratt

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    January 19, 2021 at 6:56 pm

    1501 Hi you can use perfume fixatives like Glucam P 20, also use bottom notes like Sandal wood & resins. 

    Good luck Catherine Pratt
  • 1501

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    January 20, 2021 at 4:15 am

    1501 Hi you can use perfume fixatives like Glucam P 20, also use bottom notes like Sandal wood & resins. 

    Good luck Catherine Pratt

    Do you know the ratio between Fragrance and Gluco P20? Someone said it’s 5:1, another said 1: 0.6

  • ggpetrov

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    January 20, 2021 at 7:44 am

    1501 Hi you can use perfume fixatives like Glucam P 20, also use bottom notes like Sandal wood & resins. 

    Good luck Catherine Pratt

    Hello, speaking of Glucam P20, do you have an experience with it? I am interested of this ingredient as a humectant, instead of using glycols - propylene, pentylene. A local supplier sell this ingredient.

  • Benz3ne

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    January 20, 2021 at 9:04 am

    1501 Hi you can use perfume fixatives like Glucam P 20, also use bottom notes like Sandal wood & resins. 

    Good luck Catherine Pratt

    +1 for this comment. Oud and Vanillin are also pretty ‘fixative’ in their olfactive profiles.

  • Cafe33

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    January 20, 2021 at 6:55 pm

    I found that if you use too much Glucam P 20 it will dull the scent. Usually from my reading, around 5% is added calculated from the fragrance usage rate… so not much. 

  • chemicalmatt

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    January 20, 2021 at 9:25 pm

    @1501 I think @”Dr Catherine Pratt” makes a good call with Glucam P20 there, and 1 - 2% w/w is more than enough @Cafe33. I’ll add though that deposition of fragrance oils parallels deposition of any other oil onto the hair, so your surfactant composition is a key factor not to be overlooked. Des Goddard wrote extensively on the topic of coacervate dilution-deposition of actives and oils, as has Dr. Bob Lockhead.  

  • Cafe33

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    January 20, 2021 at 9:39 pm

    Yes, my apologies, I remember now. 5% resulted in dull fragrances. The usage rate I read about is 1-5% calculated on the basis of the fragrance.  

  • jac15i3

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    January 26, 2021 at 4:56 am

    @”Dr Catherine Pratt” Can you please email me back royal.tea.llc@gmail.com, I’m in search for ways to get in touch with you, Nhung Pham (United States) *formulations

  • MelindaNicole

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    June 7, 2021 at 6:59 am

    ggpetrov said:

    1501 Hi you can use perfume fixatives like Glucam P 20, also use bottom notes like Sandal wood & resins. 

    Good luck Catherine Pratt

    Hello, speaking of Glucam P20, do you have an experience with it? I am interested of this ingredient as a humectant, instead of using glycols - propylene, pentylene. A local supplier sell this ingredient.

    I was searching for different humectants to use and came across Glucam P-20 and it was advertised as a powerful humectant. So I used it in a moisturizer and when I smelled the moisturizer I was shocked by the scent because I hadn’t added any fragrances and the only new ingredients I had used were potassium azeloyl diglycinate and Glucam P 20, and sure enough I opened the bottle of Glucam and found that odd smell. I thought something was wrong with it and did a little research to find out it’s used as a fragrance fixative.

    It does have a nice skin feel, where it has a light emollient feel, but the scent is off putting for me, but I also have a really strong sense of smell. I can’t remember how much I used in it, without looking through my formulas. If you add fragrance to your formula it probably wouldn’t be bad, or if you used a small percentage in your formula. 

    I was searching the forum to see if anyone has used it in a perfume. I am going to do a little experimenting with it and see if it helps top notes last longer and if it gives the fragrance more body. 

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