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  • how cosmetics were made before the invention of these products

    Posted by smok on February 14, 2019 at 4:05 pm
    I read some topic I find it seems that there is no substitutes to the dimethicone or syclomethicone ……
    how cosmetics were made before the invention of these products

    ngarayeva001 replied 5 years, 2 months ago 4 Members · 9 Replies
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  • Microformulation

    Member
    February 14, 2019 at 4:15 pm

    Cosmetics were made but were inferior in quality. That is called “Scientific advancement.” Lets not disregard the last hundred years or so of progress in Chemistry and synthesis.

  • ngarayeva001

    Member
    February 14, 2019 at 4:48 pm

    Well there are many “silicone free” brands even now

  • smok

    Member
    February 14, 2019 at 5:12 pm

    Well there are many “silicone free” brands even now

    do you realy believe in that

  • KateCreates

    Member
    February 14, 2019 at 6:19 pm

    This site has some older methods and formulas, some even from when pharmacies formulated at the counter:
    http://www.cosmeticsandskin.com/subject.php

  • smok

    Member
    February 14, 2019 at 6:31 pm

    This site has some older methods and formulas, some even from when pharmacies formulated at the counter:
    http://www.cosmeticsandskin.com/subject.php

    really interesting thanks dear

  • ngarayeva001

    Member
    February 14, 2019 at 7:04 pm

    Yes, I do really believe in that. In fact, you can formulate a product with polymers and you won’t need silicones because polymeric emulsifiers don’t soap like conventional surfactants do. Or you can formulate a silicone-free product with rather unpleasant texture but market it as natural/green/clean/organic/vegan and people will still buy it.
    I have 6 varieties of dimethicone in stock. I am not a “clean” formulator.

  • ngarayeva001

    Member
    February 14, 2019 at 7:06 pm

    Examples of silicone-free brands: 
    https://www.drunkelephant.com
    https://www.omorovicza.com

  • smok

    Member
    February 14, 2019 at 8:25 pm

    Yes, I do really believe in that. In fact, you can formulate a product with polymers and you won’t need silicones because polymeric emulsifiers don’t soap like conventional surfactants do. Or you can formulate a silicone-free product with rather unpleasant texture but market it as natural/green/clean/organic/vegan and people will still buy it.
    I have 6 varieties of dimethicone in stock. I am not a “clean” formulator.

    what about for prices of polymers  is it cheapper?

  • ngarayeva001

    Member
    February 14, 2019 at 10:55 pm

    It’s too vague question. There are hundreds of polymers and quite a lot of natural emulsifiers.

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