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Keratine - how do you produce it?
HelloI work as a keratinizer in a research and laboratory companyI have trouble making itCan anyone guide me through the process of making and rating materials? -
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@Zahra, what exactly does a “keratinizer” do? Help us understand.
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HelloKeratin is a person who treats damaged hair with dechlorinated and colored hair, curly and dry hair and low creatine because keratin strengthens the hair.With keratin, this substance is provided in damaged hair. Keratin, which is available in various forms, also smoothes curly hair.Japanese keratin rebondingRegenerative keratin
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Why make your own Keratin? There are many different standardized sources of raw material and unless it is your primary role to create Raw materials (a very specialized task requiring regulatory and analytical Chemistry knowledge), it will cost you more in time and money to create an inferior raw material.
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Hi thanksKeratin treatmentI meant to apply to the hair
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Hello,
Were you able to resolve this? Clearly this is an acid-based straightener. In Brazil we created many protocols like this. Basically it has 2 steps 1 anti-residue shampoo and 1 acid treatment (for matketing purposes we use the term keratin or carbocisteine) the pH of this type of product is very acidic, around 2 to 3 and after application it is necessary to act, brush and plank with piastra. its main active ingredient is glyoxylic, glycolic or my favorite lactic acid in high concentration. this type of product tends to thin the fiber so it has keratin.
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What are the ingredients in the product?
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IngredientsWaterGlyoxylic acidGlycolic acidPolyquaternium 6PhenoxyethanolEthyl hexyl glycerolCyclopentasiloxaneDimethiconeDimethiconolAmo dimethiconVinyl pyrrolidonePolyvinyl alcoholAlcohol styleStearyl alcoholIsopropyl myristateArgan oilBehntrimonium mesulfateSteriumonium chlorideDi Sodium EDTATocopherol acetate -
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It is a conditioner with cationic surfactants and silicones. There is no keratin here. Any conditioner with silicones and cationic surfactant would perform almost the same.
In that product keratin is just the company or product name.
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Hello, in these samples, there is also keratin protein, which plays a strengthening role in the hair. The smoothness that the product creates is quarantined for three days, after which the hair is ironed, after which the hair is washed with free sulfate shampoo.My goal is to combine these ingredients to create a smooth hair for several months
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Hi. Excuse meI’m In IngredientsHydrolyzed keratinI did not enter
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The smoothness of hair is from silicones.
Keratin is just for marketing.
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Thank youI still know that silicone is also a emollient.And ironing does not damage the hair.Cationic surfactants also bind to creatine proteins.Of course, some Brazilian creatine uses formaldehyde, which we do not want to use but are thinking of replacing.Because formaldehyde is cross-linked with creatine proteins.But I want to know how to make keratins like Brazilian creatine without formaldehyde.Because when I go through the production process like a conditioner or hair mask, I do not get the desired result.Creatine and surfactants appear to mix cationic and amino acids such as cysteine and add to silicon and other materials after drying.
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I have trouble making silicone argan hair serum. I do not know how to combine argan oil, which is a polar oil, with silicone.On the other hand, I do not know what to do to add essential oil or add color?Because its color becomes dull.But without oil and essential oils and dyesIt becomes transparent.I think I should use phenyltrimethicone to combine oils and essential oils with silicon.And I have to use methicillin capril to combine paint with silicone.Do you know the process of this serum? Can you guide me?I think they need a temperature above 250 degrees Celsius to combine.
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Hi @Zahra
Zahra said:My goal is to combine these ingredients to create a smooth hair for several monthsإنه ليس منتجًا سهلً
.مثالك
water, Ethanolamine Thioglycolate, Peg-20 Castor Oil, Ethanolamine, Ammonium Thioglycolate, Propylene Glycol, Cetyl Alcohol, Glycerin, Mineral Oil, Ceteareth-20, Hydrolyzed Collagen, Hydroxyethylcellulose, Ammonium Bicarbonate, Polyquaternium-10, Sodium Phosphoric Acid, Etidronic Acid, Arginine, Disodium edta, Aloe Extract, Red-213, Fragrance
.شوفي هذا الويب
https://patents.google.com/patent/US4992267A/en.عملاؤك من الجزيرة العربية ومصر؟ تبدئين في منتجات شيسيدو
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Hi, thanksThank you very much
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Are you a formulator?
Have you made any product before?
I think you have problem with a lot of things.
My suggestion is to study a lot or take a course to learn properly or hire a formulator to make a formula for you that works.
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Abdullah said:Are you a formulator?
Have you made any product before?
I think you have problem with a lot of things.
My suggestion is to study a lot or take a course to learn properly or hire a formulator to make a formula for you that works.
Hi thanksI have a master’s degree in organic chemistry.I work for a cosmetics company.I am responsible for making the formulation.I studied a lot, but found something incomprehensible about it, keratin treatment.Which confused me in making that process.Also for silicone serumsWe have not synthesized many things at the moment.hair maskhair conditioner -
Hello, thank youGuide me through the process of making keratin and revitalizing hair straighteners?Are the steps of making keratin treatment similar to the steps of making conditioner or hair mask?
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@Zahra I understand you want to make a hair straightener. For that, the common actives are thioglycolates and carbocysteine (although not as potent as thioglycolates). Formaldehyde was used in the past, but has been withdrawn due to safety issues, especially for hair dressers.
Hydrolyzed keratin doesn’t perform any significant role in these products. Consider that the ingredient is hydrolyzed in order to the added to a cosmetic, which means, rather than having the full protein (which can have film forming properties), you have smaller pieces (mostly in the form of peptides). They can have many different molecular weights, but they are also more water soluble than the protein,which makes the chance of interacting with hair very low.
I’d advise you to focus more on the straightener’s stability in your formula, and the conditioning agents, rather than the keratin (which you can find from many suppliers).
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@Zahra - You should read this Types of cosmetic ingredients
Keratin is what I would call a “claims” ingredient. The strategy companies do is make a standard straightener, add a small amount of keratin and then call it a keratin hair straightener. But the keratin doesn’t really have much effect.
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One hair straightening ingredient is formaldehyde that i think doesn’t have any alternative.
Another way is conditioner with silicones.
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ketchito said:@Zahra I understand you want to make a hair straightener. For that, the common actives are thioglycolates and carbocysteine (although not as potent as thioglycolates). Formaldehyde was used in the past, but has been withdrawn due to safety issues, especially for hair dressers.
Hydrolyzed keratin doesn’t perform any significant role in these products. Consider that the ingredient is hydrolyzed in order to the added to a cosmetic, which means, rather than having the full protein (which can have film forming properties), you have smaller pieces (mostly in the form of peptides). They can have many different molecular weights, but they are also more water soluble than the protein,which makes the chance of interacting with hair very low.
I’d advise you to focus more on the straightener’s stability in your formula, and the conditioning agents, rather than the keratin (which you can find from many suppliers).
Hello, thank you, KachitoYes, I want to straighten my hair.I know these substances are necessary, namely thioglycolic acid and carbocysteineBut I have a problem with the manufacturing process and the percentage of consumables.Yes, hydrolyzed creatine is the same as peptide.But according to my study, the presence of cationic surfactants along with silicones play an important role in smoothing and removing hair follicles.But I do not know if I will succeed in making conditioner or hair mask.Even increasing or decreasing the percentage of silicones, oils or emollients and collagen and keratin proteins does not give the right result.
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