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Keratine - how do you produce it?
Benyamin replied 1 year, 5 months ago 14 Members · 89 Replies
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Perry said:@Zahra - You should read this Types of cosmetic ingredients
Keratin is what I would call a “claims” ingredient. The strategy companies do is make a standard straightener, add a small amount of keratin and then call it a keratin hair straightener. But the keratin doesn’t really have much effect.
Hello Mr. Perry, thank youYes, keratin protein only seems to play a small role in my opinion.Because above 15% makes hair brittle.I have trouble in the manufacturing process of exactly what to combine with what.For how longDo I have to put keratin and cationic surfactants on the temperature and stir and then dry them and mix them with silicone and oil and other emollients or not? Is it another way or not …I wanted to get help from Mr. Matt. You can introduce me to him. He has experience in this field. -
Abdullah said:One hair straightening ingredient is formaldehyde that i think doesn’t have any alternative.
Another way is conditioner with silicones.
Hi, thanksYes, I know, but in making hair straightenersThis substance is not used in Brazilian keratins for hair straightening.I have read in many articles that thioglycolic acid or glycolic acid or glyoxylic acid has been used instead. -
Hi thanksCan anyone really guide me through the construction process?
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Hello, thank you for your good commentsBut to make a hair straightener using cationic surfactants, I do not know if a few surfactants are used, it should be a few percent in a total volume of 50 grams.When I increase them, stickiness is created, when I use them less, it does not give the desired result.
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In your opinionHair straightenersWhat surfactants are used instead of formaldehyde?I have a problem with the production processNo one can help this process?
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Zahra said:Hello, thank you for your good commentsBut to make a hair straightener using cationic surfactants, I do not know if a few surfactants are used, it should be a few percent in a total volume of 50 grams.When I increase them, stickiness is created, when I use them less, it does not give the desired result.
Then don’t use more or less. Use the middle amount
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Just be careful you don’t hurt yourself with your products or ingredients.
I know your situation right now.
I was in your situation when i started thinking about making cosmetic products.Let’s make a few things clear
You don’t know anything right now. (With respect)
The products you make will be worse than any product in the market. Accept this fact
If you want to make a good product, study some reputable books in cosmetic or take a reputable course like the course from this website to make learning faster and easier for you.
Or purchase a good formula from an good chemist with a good price and save yourself a lot of time and money and everything.
There are a lot of good chemist here an most of them would sell you formula.And last, try and test and try and test until you make something good. That is how we learn and improve.
I have made about 400 different versions of shampoo that was not as good as what i am currently making.
I have washed my hairs several times a day, several times to find out the long term effect of it faster.
Like this my other products.Do don’t expect your first product sample to be the best for the next of your life.
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Abdullah said:Just be careful you don’t hurt yourself with your products or ingredients.
I know your situation right now.
I was in your situation when i started thinking about making cosmetic products.Let’s make a few things clear
You don’t know anything right now. (With respect)
The products you make will be worse than any product in the market. Accept this fact
If you want to make a good product, study some reputable books in cosmetic or take a reputable course like the course from this website to make learning faster and easier for you.
Or purchase a good formula from an good chemist with a good price and save yourself a lot of time and money and everything.
There are a lot of good chemist here an most of them would sell you formula.And last, try and test and try and test until you make something good. That is how we learn and improve.
I have made about 400 different versions of shampoo that was not as good as what i am currently making.
I have washed my hairs several times a day, several times to find out the long term effect of it faster.
Like this my other products.Do don’t expect your first product sample to be the best for the next of your life.
Hi thanksBut I have a master’s degree in organic chemistry myself.I will try my best.I used ingredients that are found in many cosmetic productsI also set the percentages based on the allowed percentages.I am looking for a solution.Do not seek comparison.Thank you, I’m careful.I work for a cosmetics company. -
Perry said:@Zahra - You should read this Types of cosmetic ingredients
Keratin is what I would call a “claims” ingredient. The strategy companies do is make a standard straightener, add a small amount of keratin and then call it a keratin hair straightener. But the keratin doesn’t really have much effect.Excuse me, of course
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Abdullah said:Just be careful you don’t hurt yourself with your products or ingredients.
I know your situation right now.
I was in your situation when i started thinking about making cosmetic products.Let’s make a few things clear…
I’m sure she knows what she’s doing better than most of us because she has a master’s degree!
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1Armand2 said:Abdullah said:Just be careful you don’t hurt yourself with your products or ingredients.
I’m sure she knows what she’s doing better than most of us because she has a master’s degree!
HelloI did not say that because I have a master’s degreeI know better than anyone !!!! ??Here are tips on various issues.Because you have failed in some products. You say your products are worse than other products on the market.I am currently a researcher and I need a lot of experience because I am new to cosmetics.I asked you for guidance.Thank you for your hope! -
Zahra said:Abdullah said:Do don’t expect your first product sample to be the best for the next of your life.Hi thanksBut I have a master’s degree in organic chemistry myself.I will try my best.I used ingredients that are found in many cosmetic productsI also set the percentages based on the allowed percentages.I am looking for a solution.Do not seek comparison.Thank you, I’m careful.I work for a cosmetics company.I asked you for help because I work as a novice cosmetics researcher in a company.I have been working for 16 months.I did not receive a salary.I have made many commitments to produce many products.
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Zahra said:Zahra said:Abdullah said:Do don’t expect your first product sample to be the best for the next of your life.Hi thanksBut I have a master’s degree in organic chemistry myself.I will try my best.I used ingredients that are found in many cosmetic productsI also set the percentages based on the allowed percentages.I am looking for a solution.Do not seek comparison.Thank you, I’m careful.I work for a cosmetics company.
I read a lot on beauty sites and books.
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I read a lot on beauty sites and books.I read many articles to get each product.I asked a question because I was skeptical about a certain percentage of the materials and the manufacturing process.
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Abdullah said:Just be careful you don’t hurt yourself with your products or ingredients.
I know your situation right now.
I was in your situation when i started thinking about making cosmetic products.Let’s make a few things clear …
Hello, thank you for your helpI try like youI tried so hardBecause the material money is not from me, it belongs to the company, they reduce their loss from me.I also studied chemistry.But in our country, like in European countries, chemistry is not taught properly in many universities. -
https://www.ulprospector.com/documents/1037273.pdf?bs=1375&b=120823&st=20&r=asia&ind=personalcare
https://www.ulprospector.com/documents/1570364.pdf?bs=33091&b=987498&st=20&r=asia&ind=personalcare
You can start from these free formulas, there’re also manufacturing processes in there.
I’m sorry, this is the extent limit I can help as we might be direct competitor in the near future.
Perry said:@Zahra - if you want help, list all the ingredients you are using, the percentages you are using, the manufacturing procedure you are following, and the problem you are having.Without that information there is not much helpful advice people can give.
As Perry said, if you don’t provide information or problem you are having, other members would not be able to give much help.
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Pattsi said:https://www.ulprospector.com/documents/1037273.pdf?bs=1375&b=120823&st=20&r=asia&ind=personalcare
https://www.ulprospector.com/documents/1570364.pdf?bs=33091&b=987498&st=20&r=asia&ind=personalcare
You can start from these free formulas, there’re also manufacturing processes in there.
I’m sorry, this is the extent limit I can help as we might be direct competitor in the near future.
Perry said:@Zahra - if you want help, list all the ingredients you are using, the percentages you are using, the manufacturing procedure you are following, and the problem you are having.Without that information there is not much helpful advice people can give.
As Perry said, if you don’t provide information or problem you are having, other members would not be able to give much help.
Hi, thanksBut I can not be your rival because there is so much distance between us!I joined this association to open a way for me and others in trouble. -
Zahra said:Zahra said:Pattsi said:https://www.ulprospector.com/documents/1037273.pdf?bs=1375&b=120823&st=20&r=asia&ind=personalcare
https://www.ulprospector.com/documents/1570364.pdf?bs=33091&b=987498&st=20&r=asia&ind=personalcare
You can start from these free formulas, there’re also manufacturing processes in there.
I’m sorry, this is the extent limit I can help as we might be direct competitor in the near future.
Perry said:@Zahra - if you want help, list all the ingredients you are using, the percentages you are using, the manufacturing procedure you are following, and the problem you are having.Without that information there is not much helpful advice people can give.
As Perry said, if you don’t provide information or problem you are having, other members would not be able to give much help.
Hi, thanksBut I can not be your rival because there is so much distance between us!I joined this association to open a way for me and others in trouble.I can not enter this siteOur company does not have email.Not even with my email.Thank youI can not enter this siteOur company does not have email.Not even with my email.Thank you -
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Hi thanksIngredient:Collagen protein 4.6 gHydrolyzed keratin protein 4.5 gCysteine 0.53 gPolyvinyl alcohol 0.11 gPolyvinyl pyrrolidone 0.5 g2 drops of glycolic acid3 drops of glyoxylic acidPolydimethylsiloxane 5 ccDimethicone 2 ccDimethicone 350 ……. 3 ccAmo Dimethicone 5.5 ccElastomeric silicon 9045 …… 1 ccHydroxyethyl cellulose 0.5 gDisodium 0.1 gWater 15 ccEthyl hexyl glycerol 0.64 gTocopherol acetate 0.37 gPolysorbate 0.3 gPolyquaternium 6 …… 0.4 gPhenoxyethanol 0.5 gCetyl stearyl alcohol 0.7 gStearate -20. …… 0.6 gButter object butter 2 gDexpanthenol 2.7 gStainless alcohol 0.8 gI set the aqueous phase at 80 ° C.Place the silicones at 110 ° C after dropping the temperature to 80 ° CPlace the oil phase at 80 ° CAfter a whileMix the phases together.But when applied to the hair, it does not give much result.The hair is up to 40% smooth and soft.
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Zahra March 18I have synthesized about 75 types of hair straighteners, but the results are almost the sameI also set the pH to 5.5 to 6I do not know if the work process is difficult or not?
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Zahra March 18
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