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Hi Tyss, you are referring to soapcalc. I rely on their software too to calculate my ratios, but I am not convinced that their soap rating is the bible. If you buy olive oil soap that has been cured for 6 months, you will notice that it is rock hard. I make some on a regular basis with 25% water, which I unmold in 2 days. I cure for 2 months and it performs as well ( not melt in the shower) as a blend that rated on Soapcalc at 40 for hardness. You can also use sodium lactate instead of salt.
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Olive oil soap is very hard, not sure why you would want to measure hardness.
Use a small amount of sea salt in the water before adding the lye ( 0.8g/oz of water)
Keep water to a minimum; you want to use a ratio of 25-30 percent water to oil weight.
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It appears that Furminator makes one. https://www.chewy.com/furminator-deshedding-ultra-premium/dp/40134 The ingredient list is; Water, Mild Surfactants, Omega 3 & 6 Fatty Acids from Cranberry, Sunflower and Safflower Seed Oils, Extracts of Calendula, Papaya Leaf, Chamomile, Malva Flower, Blueberry, Aloe Vera and Kava, Vitamin E, Vegetable Protein Extract, Hydrolyzed Wheat and Oat Proteins, Fragrance, Preservative and Salt.
They do not have to list all ingredients on the label for pet shampoo in the US.
On their website, they claim that if you wash your pet regularly it will shed less. It is a claim any shampoo could make… -
When I compare creams for feel and texture, I also test on my hands, I find my fingers are more sensitive. I repeat applications over several days before making a judgment. I also give samples to friends to confirm my assessment. I use the same neutral packaging for both and, I do not tell them anything about the source of the creams so they can have a neutral judgment. Product feel is important for a face cream, it cannot feel too greasy.
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I suspect it is the Guar gum 0.028%. This ingredient never dissolved well when I was making shampoo, or body wash.
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@Abdullah, It is a journal (magazine article) the page title says Journal of the society of cosmetic Chemists.
@ Oladoo, it says that anionic surfactants interact more with proteins at low PH. That may be a potential for more irritation, more studies are needed. -
You may want to look at the ingredients in your favorite hair spray and other competing products for a starting point.
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Piroctone Olamine is also an antifungal, in the US dandruff shampoos are considered drugs.
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It is used for dandruff and associated hair thinning.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18498517/Hair shedding and hair thinning have been reported to be affected by dandruff and seborrhoeic dermatitis. The present study was conducted in 150 men presenting with telogen effluvium related to androgenic alopecia associated with dandruff. They were randomly allocated to three groups receiving each one of the three shampoos in the market containing either 1% ketoconazole (KTZ), 1% piroctone olamine (PTO) or 1% zinc pyrithione (ZPT). Shampoos had to be used 2-3 times a week for 6 months. Hair shedding during shampoo was evaluated semiquantitatively. Hair density on the vertex was evaluated on photographs using a Dermaphot. Trichograms were used for determining the anagen hair percentage and the mean proximal hair shaft diameter using computerized image analysis. The sebum excretion rate (SER, mug cm(-2) h(-1)) was also measured using a Sebumeter. The three treatments cleared pruritus and dandruff rapidly. At end point, hair density was unchanged, although hair shedding was decreased (KTZ: -17.3%, PTO: -16.5%, ZPT: -10.1%) and the anagen hair percentage was increased (KTZ: 4.9%, PTO: 7.9%, ZPT: 6.8%). The effect on the mean hair shaft diameter was contrasted between the three groups of volunteers (KTZ: 5.4%, PTO: 7.7%, ZPT: -2.2%). In conclusion, telogen effluvium was controlled by KTZ, PTO and ZPT shampoos at 1% concentration. In addition, KTZ and PTO increased the mean hair shaft thickness while discretely decreasing the sebum output at the skin surface.
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@PhilGeis is correct, it is marketing and indirectly technical.
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@Abdullah: It appears that P&G is using caffeine which has been marketed for hair loss for a while.
Ankored Shampoo and Essence.ESSENCE INGREDIENTS
ALCOHOL DENAT., WATER, NIACINAMIDE, DEHYDROXANTHAN GUM, FRAGRANCE, PIROCTONE OLAMINE, POLYACRYLAMIDE, C13-14 ISOPARAFFIN, ZINC CARBONATE, ZINC PYRITHIONE, PANTHENOL, CAFFEINE, LAURETH-7, SODIUM CHLORIDE.
SHAMPOO INGREDIENTS
WATER, SODIUM LAURETH SULFATE, ZINC CARBONATE, GLYCOL DISTEARATE, COCAMIDOPROPYL BETAINE, COCAMIDE MEA, ZINC PYRITHIONE, PIROCTONE OLAMINE, FRAGRANCE, SODIUM XYLENESULFONATE, HYDROCHLORIC ACID, GUAR HYDROXYPROPYLTRIMONIUM CHLORIDE, SODIUM BENZOATE, CAFFEINE, POLYQUATERNIUM-10, STEARYL ALCOHOL, CETYL ALCOHOL, NIACINAMIDE, PANTHENOL, METHYLCHLOROISOTHIAZOLINONE, METHYLISOTHIAZOLINONE.
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If you want to use a non-ethoxylated emulsifier you may want to shop at this location if you are located in the US. https://lotioncrafter.com/collections/emulsifiers
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@ Abdullah, a new twist on this theme https://keepitanchored.com. It appears that if you reduce oxidative stress you will lose less hair. We need to add anti-oxidants to our formulas…
Below is an article from Happi now Magazine.
Over two-thirds of adults in the US are concerned with hair loss, yet the majority leave it untreated, believing hair loss is caused by uncontrollable factors like age or genetics. Scientists and dermatologists have suspected oxidative stress at the scalp surface may also be a hair loss culprit.Oxidative stress comes from damaging free radicals, which we regularly encounter from environmental sources like UV and pollution. Free radicals are known to accelerate skin aging and to disturb the scalp skin barrier.Research publishedin the International Journal of Cosmetic Science confirms a specific antioxidant approach works to reduce excessive hair loss by reducing scalp oxidative stress. The tested technology has become the clinically-proven Hair Anchor Blend in KeepItAnchored’s hair care systems.“This research, over a decade in the making, sheds light on an issue faced by the majority of the population. The findings enable us to offer a first-of-its-kind preventative solution with KeepItAnchored’s systems, strengthening hair at the root to keep more of the hair you have, and less in the drain or brush,” said Alex Keith, CEO of Procter & Gamble’s Beauty Division.Designed with dermatologists from Cleveland Clinic as well as hair, scalp, and clinical scientists, the study enlisted 300 men and women between the ages of 18-65 and used 10 methods to create a detailed scalp-to-hair root model.Findings from the six-month, randomized, double-blinded, placebo-controlled clinical study include the following:
• Those using the antioxidant formulas had 2,400 more hair fibers than those using the placebo;• Scalp oxidative stress affects everyone with hair – even those without scalp issues;• Unlike your DNA or age, oxidative stress is a cause of hair loss that can be controlled with simple changes to normal hair care routines;• Reducing scalp oxidative stress leads to improved scalp condition, less hair loss and more hair remaining on the head. Results were measurable and noticeable; and• The antioxidant approach was most effective on those who had more hair at the start.The full body of research, entitled “Reducing hair loss by reducing scalp oxidative stress,” publishes online on October 12, and will appear in the November 2021 print issue from the International Journal of Cosmetic Science. -
How many times will a reasonable person buy this shampoo if they keep losing their hair?
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This is sneaky! Not ok in my book.
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When I read these studies, I always wonder who sponsored the research. I make soap, body wash, and shampoo. I have dry skin, and eczema, I find that using a bar of mild soap on a daily basis is ok. A dove bar with a PH of 7 feels less drying. For regular hand wash or face wash, a mild cleanser like SCI at a PH of 6 or lower feels best at low concentration. It all depends on your target audience, teens need more cleansing, adults want more moisturizing and less drying.
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@Abdulilah, good question! I also wondered about that.
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My heart goes out to you. I have 30 years of experience in sales in the US biotech industry. I have dealt with many difficult customers and situations, but nothing close to what you are describing.
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Same here in the US.
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It says silicone, but they do not specify which one! They are probably using the silicone that makes their product look good, not necessarily Amodimethicone.
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They are using a 14% SLES shampoo with 1% silicone at PH-6-6.5. They are saying that you are getting 53% of silicone deposition if you add Jaquar C17 at a .2% concentration. It is higher than other polymers like PQ-7 which is at 13%. In conclusion, different polymers impact silicone deposition differently.
Thank you for the graph, it is informative.
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If you are interested in hair growth, check out Replicel, a Canadian company. They have a partnership with Shiseido in Asia.
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Thank you, Perry and Abdullah
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Thank you Aripfadli, I already ordered some, and I will be testing this week.
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@Dennis, you can buy the stevia already made for $3.65 plus shipping.
https://tkbtrading.com/products/stevia-sweetnerBest Syl