Perry44
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“Can anyone with a higher brain power than me make any sense of this? Is there logic behind this? Are we expected to see such new surfactants as technology/understanding gets better/advances? “
Raw material companies recognize that natural/green/sustainability is a trend in the cosmetic industry. Thus, when launching new surfactants they look for things that apply to that trend. They don’t necessarily look at performance but rather sourcing. Yes, you can expect to see more surfactants like this.
No, these surfactants are unlikely to perform better. But performance isn’t the key driver in todays green-focused market.
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Also, try a different fragrance
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1. Because you loaded the formula with oil. Cleansing products are meant to remove oil. They should not be put into shampoos. You should have 0% coconut oil.
2. Yes. Your preservative system needs a boost.
3. Get rid of the oils. Get rid of the Glycerin. Reduce panthenol to 0.1%.
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No. Foam and viscosity are not directly related.
If you list your ingredients maybe someone can give some suggestion on improving foam.
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Yes.
No there shouldn’t be any side effects.
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Yes I used it.
PEG-12 Dimethicone is water soluble, so it mostly gets rinsed down the drain when used in a shampoo. No extra amount is going to get you the feel of Dimethicone
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Do you have a link to the new regulation?
I don’t expect retinol to have a big impact on performance so the only impact I think it will have is that retinol containing products will be less irritating to more people.
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Yes.
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It also works from a mobile device
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Ah, I was able to reply by clicking all the way on the right side of the Reply button. If you click in the middle it doesn’t work, but on the right edge, it works. Weird. Hopefully we get this fixed soon!
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I don’t have any book to recommend you. Sorry, maybe someone else in this forum will.
As far as Titanium Dioxide goes, the product is made by L’Oreal. They know how to make products and they know how to properly label them. Whatever book you read that claimed you need 20% to get an SPF 20, they are just wrong. L’Oreal knows how to do it with only 1.75%.
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The product claims to be SPF 25. The 1.75% Titanium Dioxide is the active ingredient that gives the product the SPF rating. In the US, sunscreens are categorized as over the counter drugs. So, they have to use an approved sunscreen like Titanium Dioxide to achieve the SPF rating.
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Agreed
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There’s a market for it, just not a particularly big one.
Making a good, unscented product is not a technically difficult problem. So, you have to ask yourself, why aren’t there more unscented products on the market?
The answer…because most people don’t buy them.
Fragrance is used because MOST people want their cosmetic products to smell nice. They want the experience of a fragrance during use.
There will always be a niche market for unscented products. It just will never be very big in my opinion. Say, around 10% or less of the total market.
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You have a lot of stuff in there that kills foam.
Xanthan gum
propanediol
butylene Glycol
glycerin
mango butter
fragrance
extracts
Use less of these (or take the out)
Also, as Abdullah says, using a good foaming surfactant would help too.
In formulating, if you put ingredient restrictions on yourself you are also putting performance restrictions on yourself.
You can’t expect a Toyota to go as fast as a Ferrari. Similarly, you can’t expect inferior surfactants to foam as well as the good ones.
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It should be working again.
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Thanks - I’ll check it out. I really find this new system a bit annoying.
As for your old account, it still exists. I think it just wasn’t imported in properly. I’ll send you login information so you can check it out.
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Well, it does something in terms of skin irritation. So, it makes sense to regulate it.
I meant it doesn’t do much in terms of consumer benefit. -
I just went with what my IT guy recommended. I liked the past forum software (Vanilla) better but I’m a chemist not a IT guy so didn’t even know about xenforo.
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As long as the manufacturer can substantiate their claims and demonstrate under some conditions the product they are selling works as a preservative, I doubt they would have any liability if a finished product had microbial contamination. Having said that, in the US anyone can pretty much sue anyone for any reason. I just don’t think the finished goods maker would win.
This would be similar to if a consumer used a product that was claimed to strengthen hair, but their hair still broke so they sued the product maker. Sure they could sue, but they would lose.
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We’re working on fixing some of the problems. Thanks for the feedback
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Hello Joy,
Thank you for the notification. Yes, this is a problem for everyone and I’m having my IT guys work on fixing it. Unfortunately, we don’t have a fix just yet but hopefully today!
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I don’t know.
Are you typing your message in some other program, then cutting and pasting it into the forum?
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The one from Dr Baki is probably the most appropriate for you, but these are industry books. They are not meant to teach people how to make things at home. Some products (like the foundation you are mentioning) need special equipment to be able to make them. You can’t make some things at home unless you have a proper lab.
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It does amaze me sometimes, the gullibility of some formulators. I guess I can understand the DIYers, but I even see scientists working in the industry that fall for raw materials supplier marketing stories. Don’t they realize that the BS marketing used to sell their own cosmetics is the same type of BS marketing used to sell raw materials?