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@em88 actually for sure high ph is a problem for a cream , then did weak slat of potassuim lead to a soap?
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@TimMcG try to add neutralized carbomer to your product i will improve the texture.
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@ngarayeva001 if we talk according to science stearic acid is acid cetearyl alcohol is alcohol however potassuim-beewax is a kind of soap where free acid of wax react in basic solution to give soap so by science soap have the capacity of emusifier( with having both hydrophil part and lipophil part)
So to be more precise in my question is potassuim-beewax a good emulsifier cause actually it is for sure emulsifier why it can be bad ? may the end ph of potassuim-beewax ( verry soft soap) can be slightly basic .(i see in the net,a cream product using potassuim beewax the product seems great and according to maker very stable so just i’am curious if it gives acceptable ph?) -
Can potassuim-beewax used as an emulsifier or even TEA-beewax in place of borax-beewax ?
@Perry @Dirtnap1 @Chemist77 @ngarayeva001 @Doreen @chemicalmatt @pepe @MarkBroussard -
@ngarayeva001 it is just Ethanol based product wich i can think about glycerine vegetabeles oils to make it softer and may other input ☺ .
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@ngarayeva001 Ethanol based product can not be a good solublizer for make up ? i think about the idea cause wax and oil are soluble in it , just may Ethanol must have high purity for dissolving better make up.
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@Gunther i guess peg is water soluble that can be removed by water.
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@ted using suitable level of kaolin will reduce the greasy effect.
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@em88 actually no precise value but a viscosity near to elegance gel ( lit bit higher) .
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You are welcome @Doreen
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@ngarayeva001 thanks for the help and this curve have a plus about carbomer and viscosity but i have always problem of access .
Whatever @ozgirl thanks a lot for your input.
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@ngarayeva001 @Doreen actually industrialized TEA has purity > 99% so if DEA exist it will be go to 0 and Tromethamine is primary Amine wich also can give in some conditions second Amine wich is also nitrosamine so risk will be always exist ☺.
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@Chemist77 @Doreen actually elegance gel have great viscosity that soo difficult to reach it with only carbomer same for few other gels the commun point is they are all containing : castor oil or peg 40 castor oil.
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@Muhammad7 try 2 % level .
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@Muhammad7 you can increase the level of HEC to have more viscosity , change the type of HEC ( there are a lot type of HEC wich give different viscosity ) and finally you can think about other electrolyte resistant thickner .
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@Doreen any way thanks for your answer .
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@VitalikButerin actually i work in stainless steel tank.
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@capsys the high level is not for emulsion but to thick the product and even 23 % is not enough to give high fixation and thickness for product.
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@enzinhoo try silicones or C12-15 alkylbenzoate but may it will decrease the transperency of gel.
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@Chemist77 about carbomer’s stability with polyquaternium actually i find source wich prove that with only 0,5 % of carbomer we can add 2% of polyquaternium 46 unfortently i can not have this type of polyquaternium however i look forward to make such product … @ngarayeva001 that may can be interesting to you “hair gel with polyquaternium” actually it is one of my dream future product…
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Thanks a lot @ngarayeva001 for your interesting share.
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Thanks @NeilL actually you argument is soo clear thanks for information.
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@ted IPM and C12-15 alkyl benzoate can do a good job for reducing greasy effect.