Home Cosmetic Science Talk Formulating Small labs - how do you mix and cook your formulations

  • fekher

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    February 14, 2019 at 11:09 am

    @VitalikButerin  actually i work in stainless steel tank.
     

  • belassi

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    February 14, 2019 at 3:03 pm

    I use native labour. The main difficulty is cleaning the grease from the big black pots after we finish boiling down the missionaries. 

  • VitalikButerin

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    February 14, 2019 at 8:00 pm

    Belassi said:

    I use native labour. The main difficulty is cleaning the grease from the big black pots after we finish boiling down the missionaries. 

    How do you monitor temperature and heat the pots? 

  • VitalikButerin

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    February 14, 2019 at 8:00 pm

    Fekher said:

    @VitalikButerin  actually i work in stainless steel tank.
     

    chinese? 

  • microformulation

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    February 14, 2019 at 10:10 pm

    Fekher said:

    @VitalikButerin  actually i work in stainless steel tank.
     

    chinese? 

    No, the missionaries were American.
  • Dr Catherine Pratt

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    February 14, 2019 at 10:42 pm

    Getting the grease off the boiled pots? didn’t you have a High Frequency Ultrasonic Wave cleaner handy? I thought they would be just laying around in the fields…

  • Dirtnap1

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    February 14, 2019 at 10:42 pm

    Stainless water jacketed tanks for me. Simple drill mixers with various blades depending on formula.

  • Dr Catherine Pratt

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    February 14, 2019 at 10:49 pm

    Hey Mark were the Chinese ones Natural?

  • mikethair

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    February 16, 2019 at 6:15 am

    For us, stainless water jacketed tanks made in the USA, commercial mixers used in the restaurant industry.

  • VitalikButerin

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    February 16, 2019 at 1:34 pm

    Getting the grease off the boiled pots? didn’t you have a High Frequency Ultrasonic Wave cleaner handy? I thought they would be just laying around in the fields…

    Aren’t those cleaners like pots you put objects in? Or is it a hand one? How could he put pots inside that, a pot would be too big? 

  • VitalikButerin

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    February 16, 2019 at 1:35 pm

    Dirtnap1 said:

    Stainless water jacketed tanks for me. Simple drill mixers with various blades depending on formula.

    Does the water jacketed tanks allow you to regulate temp exactly to your needs? 

  • VitalikButerin

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    February 16, 2019 at 1:35 pm

    mikethair said:

    For us, stainless water jacketed tanks made in the USA, commercial mixers used in the restaurant industry.

    Nice use of industrial/heavy duty  food mixers! 

    Can you regulate tempt specifically using the jacketed tanks? 

  • KateCreates

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    February 17, 2019 at 2:29 am
    I just ordered a roaster oven that lets you set the temperature fairly low for heating. 
    Currently mixing with immersion blender, food processor, and food mixer but they over-aerate.
    Probably gonna rig a standard attachment someone linked on mixer direct to a drill or make a box to control a used motor myself if I can’t find something more fit to purpose used.  (I’m an engineer so “rig a motor with a control system” seems reasonable but may be a bad idea).  My time might be better spent learning marketing…
  • dtdang

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    February 17, 2019 at 5:11 pm

    My lab is under $500:
    Soup warmers: 2   ($120)
    Overhead electric with timer and speed stirrer: 2 ($200)
    pH meter: 1 ($45)
    T meter: 2 ($40)
    Funnels: 2 ($5)
    Digital scale ( accurate 0.01) 1: $50

    Stainless steel

  • dtdang

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    February 17, 2019 at 5:15 pm

    I am struggling to find the filling tool for airless bottles

  • VitalikButerin

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    February 18, 2019 at 10:59 am
  • VitalikButerin

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    February 18, 2019 at 11:00 am

    Fekher said:

    @VitalikButerin  actually i work in stainless steel tank.
     

    do you recommend any brand? 

  • VitalikButerin

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    February 18, 2019 at 11:01 am

    Dirtnap1 said:

    Stainless water jacketed tanks for me. Simple drill mixers with various blades depending on formula.

    do you recommend any brand for the jacked tanks? which country are they ?

  • Dirtnap1

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    February 19, 2019 at 11:36 pm

    Of course- I always recommend Maxant https://www.maxantindustries.com/bottling.html

    Honey Industry equipment, but can be used just the same in cosmetics. Jacketed tanks give even temps, not direct hot spots etc. They do take a while to cool if you need to cool the entire tank. Or you can dispense into smaller single walled tanks for cooling. They are in the USA. 

  • VitalikButerin

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    February 26, 2019 at 12:11 am

    Fekher said:

    @VitalikButerin  actually i work in stainless steel tank.
     

    how do you monitor temp? and control it

  • VitalikButerin

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    February 26, 2019 at 10:48 am

    I found mash kettle should do the job 

  • VitalikButerin

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    March 6, 2019 at 8:41 pm

    mikethair said:

    For us, stainless water jacketed tanks made in the USA, commercial mixers used in the restaurant industry.

    mike, do you use electric heated ones or you use a steam generator? 

  • mikethair

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    March 9, 2019 at 3:17 am

    mikethair said:

    For us, stainless water jacketed tanks made in the USA, commercial mixers used in the restaurant industry.

    Nice use of industrial/heavy duty  food mixers! 

    Can you regulate tempt specifically using the jacketed tanks? 

    Can do, electric heater with themostat. We also  monitor with thermometer. All made in the USA. We steer clear of China made equipment.
  • VitalikButerin

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    March 9, 2019 at 11:27 am

    mikethair said:

    mikethair said:

    For us, stainless water jacketed tanks made in the USA, commercial mixers used in the restaurant industry.

    Nice use of industrial/heavy duty  food mixers! 

    Can you regulate tempt specifically using the jacketed tanks? 

    Can do, electric heater with themostat. We also  monitor with thermometer. All made in the USA. We steer clear of China made equipment.

    Quick question: 

    You once spoke about your Chinese homogenizer being rubbish and chucked it away.. 

    Did it just stop working? Or was it not doing its job?

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