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@Benz3ne I did not believe suppliers for cosmetic Ethanol because when I ask about the other ingredients they did not know exactly and about IPM and MPG by experience they did not have significant fixative effect.
@ketchito about IPA i’don’t think that toxicity because it is used with high level 75 % (v/v) as sanitizer. -
@Pharma thanks for the answer about my definition of pharmaceutical Ethanol is Ethanol found in pharmacy and perfume’s Ethanol is Ethanol found in Cosmetics suppliers which is solding with very high cost,supposed contain fixative but actually I don’t really belive that.
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@Soona actually it is really easy to enhance viscosity of your system without gum or carbomer you just need to add adequat level of salt to have viscous clear liquid soap.
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@Abdullah I guess that is bad idea for many reasons
1)powder form is more stable
2)Diluate it will almost need preservative
3) chelating agent in powder form is really easy to work with it so there is no convincing need according to me to Diluate it. -
@filiz for sure for Steareth-2 and Steareth-20 you need to go to hot process cause both are solid emulsifiers which need heating.
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@CarrieM actually as answer for your 3 questions according to me
1) there is always an order for better process or product for your case it is not really important
2) I guess that your product from lol supposed to be clear but if there is a suspect it will be about extract may the quality change from buying to other.
3) Your formulation have good ingredients really , just two things for verifying: is the viscosity good for serum then if your product is stable (preservation is it fine?)
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@Kunal adding salt is not mandatory, reduce viscosity can be done with deferent way I guess the best is making sample for low quantity as example take one kilogram make dilution with stiring then stop when you reach acceptable viscosity if your product is fine then no need to add correction else add some ingredients to improve It, repeat this process until you get what you want.
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Fekher
MemberNovember 7, 2020 at 9:12 am in reply to: How to improve foaming height when salt is added as a thickner@achalugo make your formulation in % to get help.
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@Kunal heating is not needed at all for your system just you need high speed stiring to dissolve it quickly, heating will help to dissolve quickly SLES, So adequat stiring will make no sense of heating.
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@Zara I guess all : glycerin in high level, with thym extract and rosemary leaf oil can be very creative preservation system if it works.
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@Tyss just a guess that soap did not dissolved well in cold process then it needs more time to dissolve then high speed stiring to give thicking effect.
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@MurtazaHakim the rule is needed TEA equal 1,5 carbomer(in massic level) to neurtalize it and get pH =7 [ the amount can be less or more depends on desired ph] , however for your system which have more then 60 % Ethanol you will need as neutralizer AMP or other neutralizer that can work for your level of alcohol .
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@letsalcido Old fashioned oils and lye soap have a basic pH that will open hair’s follicle and give a significant volumizing effect but sure will make hair Rough.
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@filiz take a look for industrial formulations then try to copy your best industrial product it will be helpful.
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@Cafe33 @Perry @ngarayeva001 others by making reaserchment I find that also isopropyl palmitate can be good fixative and verifying vapor pressure value it seems logic so have any one idea about it?
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Thank you @ketchito for interesting share I made message for Dettol company about my question and i’am waiting the answer just I guess for 1:20 diluation said by Dettol the needed contact time will be lower then 5 min but whatever even 5 min is acceptable.
@Pattsi Dettol does officially claim that some products with Chloroxylenol kill covid-19 take look at:
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@ketchito thanks however first link did not work about needed contact time according to my reaseachement it will be half and ten minutes just I want to find out the minimal needed contact time.
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@Pharma it is very old study from April 1997 and actually chloroxylenol kill corona viruses according to Dettol website.
Reference https://www.dettol.co.uk/about-us/understanding-coronavirus/.
So i’am sure about it just I need to know contact time.
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@aquariustye I read some styling gel using HEC so it can be however I did not remember the level of use, just make some reasearch to find out.