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  • What is the Best add for hair wax?!

    Posted by fekher on July 12, 2022 at 5:49 pm

    Supposed to have base lol for hair wax:

    Ceteareth 25 : 25%
    Water              : 74.5%
    Perfume         : 0.4%
    Perservative   :0.1%

      If you have to choose one from these ingredients to add with same level 2% (mpg, peg_40,ipm,dimethicone,peg7 glyceryl cocoate, alkyl benzoate c12_15,citramonium chloride or other cationic ingredient  ) what will you choose and the most important why?
    @Perry @Chemist77 @chemicalmatt @Pharma @Abdullah @natzam44

    fekher replied 4 weeks ago 4 Members · 17 Replies
  • 17 Replies
  • evchem2

    Member
    July 14, 2022 at 8:02 pm

    These are all pretty different ingredients- what’s the purpose of adding any of these? Are you just trying to pad your LOI? 

  • fekher

    Member
    July 15, 2022 at 6:17 am

    @evchem2 for sure I have specifics purposes for adding ingredient however I didn’t precise to have no oriented answer. 

  • evchem2

    Member
    July 15, 2022 at 12:22 pm

    Well I guess mpg is monopropylene glycol? That’s what I’d go with, I don’t think it will affect much

  • abdullah

    Member
    July 15, 2022 at 3:16 pm

    I think 25% Ceteareth 25 will make your hair dry by emulsifying any lipids that is there. Have you used this product? 

  • chemicalmatt

    Member
    July 15, 2022 at 3:32 pm

    My answer is: none of the above. Add glycerin/butylene glycol at 1:1 ratio up to 10.00% total addition, PEG-40 Hydrogenated Castor oil or PEG-25 Castor Oil up to 8.00% addition. You may then be able to add some lipids to this formula. Ignore all the rest. 

    • fekher

      Member
      February 5, 2024 at 12:08 am

      Can you please explain to me the reason of using each one glycerin, butyl glycol, peg40 ?

  • fekher

    Member
    July 15, 2022 at 4:19 pm

    @evchem2 actually almost hair wax contain mpg (your guess is right it is the abbreviation of monopropylene glycol) and the function of it is decreasing the fusion temperature of product for many technicals reasons. Nice answer friend 😉. 

  • fekher

    Member
    July 15, 2022 at 4:24 pm

    @Abdullah actually almost water based hair wax contain sush level of Ceteareth and even more and yes it makes hair dry. We can add oils but then we move to other product which is hair cream-wax product and for sure I tried the product. 

  • fekher

    Member
    July 15, 2022 at 4:30 pm

    @chemicalmatt thanks for the input butylene glycol/glycerin and the most important what will add this for product? 
     Actually I guess especially dimethicone or other silicone can be beneficial for many reasons for such product but even other proposed ingredients are chosen for reasons . Finally fine to hear from an expert new vision😊

  • fekher

    Member
    July 18, 2022 at 11:05 am

     Have any one use hair styling product with cationic ingredient? I’m interested to know if cationic ingredient in such product have remarkable effect or it is more for commercial reason. 

  • fekher

    Member
    July 24, 2022 at 5:16 pm

    @Abdullah according to your expertise what input will you suggest even more then ingredient or unlisted? 

  • abdullah

    Member
    July 25, 2022 at 8:36 am

    Fekher said:

    @Abdullah according to your expertise what input will you suggest even more then ingredient or unlisted? 

    Sorry i didn’t have experience in this category.

  • fekher

    Member
    July 25, 2022 at 8:48 am

    No problem @Abdullah if you need help for such category i’am here😊. 

  • abdullah

    Member
    July 25, 2022 at 9:34 am

    Fekher said:

    No problem @Abdullah if you need help for such category i’am here😊. 

    Sure i will contact you. 

    Currently don’t have any plan for such product.

    Hair wax is used to hold hair in whatever style you want it. Correct?

  • fekher

    Member
    July 25, 2022 at 9:41 am

    @Abdullah generally hair wax  is a product has highest viscosity ,  fix instantly so no needed time for evaporation  as gel then it gives some matte finish. Is that answer for your question ? 

  • abdullah

    Member
    July 25, 2022 at 12:12 pm

    Yes 
    Got it
    Thanks

  • fekher

    Member
    July 25, 2022 at 12:25 pm

    You are welcome @Abdullah

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