Bobzchemist
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I’m not sure that leaving something potentially slippery on your customer’s feet is all that smart of an idea. In fact, it could be potentially disastrous.
I’d try an additional humectant rather than look for a conditioning agent. Sorbitol, for example. -
Jojoba oil is technically a wax, not an oil. Do you have any other oils to work with?
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What oil are you using? Sometimes it’s helpful to heat the oil and use a spatula to break up clumps as you’re heating the mixture.
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With the info they’ve given you, the only INCI name you can use in the US is “Fragrance”. If it’s a lip product, you could probably get away with “Flavor” instead.
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If I had a spare $50k, I would consider this quite seriously. Of course, I don’t have $50k, let alone a “spare” $50k, so…
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It looks like they want to do something else, and reading between the lines, may not have the money to expand.
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Andy,
I’d be willing to get you a standard sample size of the two Cetiol products you’re looking for (about 4 ounces), but you’d have to pay for my shipping costs to a re-shipper like ship2me, and then it would be between the shipper and you to get the box to Japan. The easiest way to do this is for you to get a fedex account, and then share that account number with me privately. Doing that means that Fedex will directly bill you for my shipping costs, and we won’t have to concern ourselves with money changing hands.You might also want to consider establishing yourself as a business or corporation. It’s not that hard in the US, I don’t know about elsewhere. I think that you could legitimately say that you are exploring custom skin treatments for Seborrheic dermatitis - you don’t need to say that your first customer will be yourself. This might make things easier on sites like Prospector. -
http://www.duffysbrew.com/ is for sale
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@luiscuevasii, the basic idea is to choose a liquid surfactant that has little to no water in it, and then add just enough of it to a water-soluble powder - sodium bicarbonate, or Borax, for example - so that the powder granulates, but no more, so that the powder/surfactant mixture does not blend into a paste. If you get a paste, use less surfactant the next time. Also, the more water that there is in your liquid surfactant, the longer you will have to mix the powder/surfactant blend for, so that the water evaporates. Gentle heating will speed this up. If dripping surfactant in doesn’t make something sufficiently lump-free, you could try using an atomizer.
Why isn’t simply using powdered soap an option, or powdered soap blended with Borax?How much of this are you trying to make?Why is a powder so important? -
If you want to get really fancy, the walls should be painted neutral grey. An alternative is to use a color-matching booth: http://www.xrite.com/macbeth-lighting
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Take Perry’s course, and then research “private label lipstick manufacturers”.
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It would cost at least $500 to do this. It would be a lot cheaper to get the store and/or the grease maker to give you an ingredient list, since it is quite illegal to sell a personal care product in the US without one.
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Full-spectrum lighting is what I’d suggest.
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Basically, you use a spectraphotometer and some very sophisticated software:
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Yes, but they are expensive. Same sort of equipment used for computer color matching of paint.
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My suggestion would be to get in touch with the Japanese Cosmetic Science Society http://www.jcss.jp/sitemap_e.html to see if you can get a consultant or someone who does work for an established cosmetic company to help you out with obtaining ingredients and/or custom-formulating a cream for your skin.
Unfortunately, the language barrier seems to be frustrating my attempts at searching for any Japanese versions of the US/UK DIY cosmetic sites. -
@CC7, 999 times out of 1,000, color is added to cosmetics in the initial manufacturing process, mostly because there are processing/energy synergies available when you do this.
It is a very rare occasion when color is added to a pre-made base, primarily because colorants are so very difficult to disperse and mix adequately, but also because it is much more difficult to protect the quality and sterility of a finished base than it is to separately protect the raw materials that go into that base.Can you share some more details of what you’re trying to accomplish and what kind of volumes you’re planning on working with? -
There’s a long technical answer as to why this is so - but the short answer is that the process would be cost-prohibitive, since manufacturing cost is one of the smallest contributors to the cost of cosmetics.
Now, if you wanted to buy monochomatic bulk pre-made cosmetics in powder form, blend them yourself to get custom colors, and then press them into compacts on a small scale, that would be possible - and could even be profitable, if you were selling high-end cosmetics. -
NO!
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I found some interesting opportunities when doing a quick Google search - I think my favorite is the beer shampoo company. I wish I had the courage to try and make one of them successful - the prospect of a business that employs other people succeeding or failing based on my efforts alone scares me.
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That’s an interesting concept. Any particular area you’re looking at?
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The FDA regs are what complicate this. In the US, if it is shown that a cosmetic cream actually penetrates/repairs the skin, or if a cosmetic company claims that it does so (whether it does or not), that product automatically becomes an unapproved new prescription-only drug. Technically, it has to go through the entire NDA process before it is legal to sell it at all. It would have to go through a separate approval process before it could be sold as an OTC drug.
As a result, research showing that any skincare product actually works to change the ‘structure or function of the body” has gone unfunded, or has even been suppressed. Needing a doctor visit and a prescription for skin cream would kill most of the market. -
I think it’s pretty clear that the 1% line is at or just below the glycerin, which means that they could be adding the essential oils at 0.001% or even less. At some ultra-low percentage, you could probably get those oils into the sorbitol.
Of course, the other possibility is that those three oils are part of a fragrance mix, and the company conveniently “forgot” to include the solubilizers when they wrote the ingredient list. -
small scale? Use a Kitchen Aid or other planetary mixer, put the dry materials in the mixer bowl, and then very slowly drip the liquids onto the powders while you are mixing with a wire whisk attachment.
Large scale needs a PK mixer or ribbon blender or equivalent, but the process is the same. Personally, I think that it’s a massive waste of time for any but the largest manufacturers.What’s wrong with a liquid detergent blend?