[Ahlmeyer]

Pq 7 is 0,1 . And the pq113 I don’t know yet. But I can feel that the problem must be the Cocamide mipa. It’s like a fatty film. It foam’s very well. 

[Ahlmeyer]

@ketchito I worked with iselux sfb. But I don’t like the smell. 

I think the Cocamide mipa is the problem. 

I would lower the blend to 20 %. Than there is 1 % Cocamide Mipa in the formulation. 

I would also add 12 % pure olefin sulfonate to get an anionic active around 12% .

what do you think? 

[Ahlmeyer]

6% oils is to much for a conditioner. Replace is with max 2 or 3 % . I recommend the Pe 9010

[Ahlmeyer]

I can’t post my complete formula, but I try hundreds with the same results. 

Anionics active around 12  ( iselux sfb, akypo foam lm25)
cocamidopropyl hydroxysultanine around 6%

0,2 pq 10
0,2 hydroxypropyl guar
0,6 proteins 
4 % microemulsion of Amodimethicone 
6% carbopol Aqua sf1 

to try different ph 5,5 5,8 6,0 

It feels great during washing . But there is to less deposit on the hair.