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  • Stop loss conditioner design

    Posted by belassi on August 15, 2016 at 5:15 pm

    I am looking to design a stop loss conditioner. I have some mamey oil here which is supposedly good for seborrheic dermatitis (one of the causes of hair loss). What else should I include, do you think? 

    Derya replied 6 years, 7 months ago 10 Members · 23 Replies
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  • Microformulation

    Member
    August 15, 2016 at 5:35 pm

    “What else should I include, do you think?” 

    A more stringent claims substantiation process?

  • OldPerry

    Member
    August 15, 2016 at 6:19 pm

    You’re asking about a product to stop hair loss? Minoxidil is the only proven topically applied ingredient that has any benefit.

    But as unproven and likely not working ingredients go, caffeine is popular these days. 

  • belassi

    Member
    August 15, 2016 at 7:19 pm

    Yes, I was thinking of caffeine. I will have to import it though. Not salicylic acid? After my trials of licorice, I think I will include that.

  • beautynerd

    Member
    August 16, 2016 at 11:26 pm

    Do you have a Lucas Meyer rep? “Defenscalp” looks interesting.

    There are a few clinical studies to support the anti-inflammatory activity of oenothein-b.

  • belassi

    Member
    August 17, 2016 at 12:35 am

    Yes in Mexico City there appears to be a distributor. I will talk to them. Does look interesting I agree. Perhaps I should make it clear that I am not looking to “invent” a magic regrowth formula, but something that will stop excessive hair loss, which is often caused by fungal problems or sebhorreic dermatitis. As such I am taking a holistic approach in that I want to:
    reduce inflammation (aloe vera, calendula)
    stimulate scalp circulation (caffeine, quinine)
    kill yeasts such as malessezia (antifungals - monolaurin, thyme extract, essential oils tea tree and neem)
    clear the hair follicles of embedded sebum (jojoba oil, SA)
    + the “magic” bits that “might” encourage growth:
    stevia extract
    Glycrrhizic acid

  • Jini

    Member
    March 17, 2017 at 12:38 am

    Hello Belassi, I know this post is old, but Iam new to the forum and wanted to add some info just to see if it helps you out. I agree with Perry Minoxidil is the only proven hair growth product in the market, how ever these ingredients some people swear are great for preventing hair loss or promoting hair growth: Rosemary. Peppermint/Spearmint and Cinnamon. I would also add a “Massage in scalp” disclaimer as this stimulates hair growth as well.

    Hope this helps you out in some way :)

  • belassi

    Member
    March 17, 2017 at 5:07 am

    Well the new shampoo seems to be effective, according to our first customer who has stopped using hair extensions, she told us. But who knows? 

  • Jini

    Member
    March 17, 2017 at 10:51 am

    Thats good news!

  • em88

    Member
    June 28, 2017 at 9:53 am

    Did you add salicylic acid?

  • belassi

    Member
    June 28, 2017 at 2:59 pm

    No salicylic acid.

  • Doreen

    Member
    July 2, 2017 at 8:22 am

    What about ketoconazole? In this country up to 1% can be used in cosmetics, 2% for pharmaceuticals.

    Edit: Sorry, I see this is a very old thread.

  • MarkBroussard

    Member
    July 2, 2017 at 1:07 pm

    Even though this is an old thread … @belassi:  you don’t seem to have any alpha-5 reductase inhibitors in your formula, which is the key to reducing hair loss.

  • belassi

    Member
    July 2, 2017 at 2:02 pm

    Glycrrhizic acid acts as an anti-androgen.

  • MarkBroussard

    Member
    July 2, 2017 at 5:33 pm

    I see … there are some others you might want to consider, but this might be a moot point given the age of this thread

  • kot

    Member
    July 4, 2017 at 12:03 am

    Mark, i am interested what are the  “some others” could you please let me know?
    Thank you

  • belassi

    Member
    July 4, 2017 at 12:25 am

    The problem is that either you decide to make what can only be classed as a drug; and then you can look at everything from Minoxidil to HGH-Epilatory Factor… or … you make a cosmetic and then, you’re basically in a ridiculous position of tacitly saying, “Well yes it is a cosmetic and yes, it’s true, under the regulations cosmetics can have no effect on the body processes, but, well, you know what I mean, sport? Nudge nudge wink wink.”
    So you research and read many many patents and scientific extracts and you try things and mostly they have no effect. But sometimes the opposite effect.
    For instance the trial with rats involving hair loss.
    Some people seem to believe one of our products works. One tester reported a distinct difference with one ingredient in particular, which I’d included as a result of reading a patent. But do any ingredients really have an effect? Who knows? There’s such a thing as the placebo effect and for that matter, perhaps the user was using, before, some awful scalp-irritating shampoo with aggressive surfactant and nasty preservative.
    Still, it’s fun to experiment.

  • MarkBroussard

    Member
    July 4, 2017 at 3:01 am

    Saw Palmetto, Beta Sitosterol, Stinging Nettle

  • Doreen

    Member
    July 8, 2017 at 11:08 am

    @Belassi
    How are the results so far with the cofffee shampoo (the one with licorice)?

  • belassi

    Member
    July 8, 2017 at 2:44 pm

    The shampoo appears to work for some people. Typically a person who is actually losing hair. It does not seem to work if hair loss took place some time ago and has been established. A client sent me some interesting before / after photos just yesterday. This is the nearest we’ve got to a treatment, to date. I need to make a conditioner version so am just ordering some new items for that.

  • Derya

    Member
    September 6, 2017 at 2:33 pm

    onion juice. 

  • Derya

    Member
    September 11, 2017 at 4:09 pm

    Bioforce / Dr Vogel a Swiss company used to have a product made from Onion juice for hair loss. I don’t know if the product is still around.

  • Derya

    Member
    September 11, 2017 at 4:15 pm

    The country I come from sometimes they use sulfur soap.

  • Derya

    Member
    September 21, 2017 at 11:28 am
    BIOEXTRACTLUPULO HG Aqia
    • INCI Name:

      Humulus Lupulus (Hops) Extract

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