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Shampoo Base
Hi all
Im needing a bit of advice re shampoo bases… Looking at supplies of ready to go concentrates that are usually diluted at 1:2 or there abouts eg Solvay/Rhodia/Mackadet etc. I’m looking for easy, cost effective process options… has anyone had good results with these types of bases? Are they difficult to customise with fragrance & additional ingredients (silicones/Quats) and additional preservation?I’m a shampoo newbie so hoping for a bit of advice re above.
Many Thanks
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Pre-made product bases, are on the whole, average quality products formulated such that they have the largest sales potential.
What sort of quantities are you interested in? You may find that minimum quantities from the suppliers you highlighted far exceed the amount you would be interested in buying.
Fragraces should not be a problem provided the fragrance is designed for that end use.
Regarding silicones, I can’t see any reason that anyone would want to include these materials in a shampoo - most silicones act as foam inhibitors and those that do not, in my view, do not add anything to the prime function of a shampoo either.
Quats are mostly unstable in shampoos. There are cationic conditioners that can be mixed into normal anionic shampoos but these are specialist materials and you ought really to learn some of the fundamentals before progressing in that direction.
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Plantaren APB. Excellent combination. High solids, great foam, mild. Keep it at pH5 and use sodium benzoate as preservative. Cold process.
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The biggest advantage with working with a supplier base is the support you can get from them. I would simply let them formulate and evaluate the samples.
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You can try GalFUSION Gentle Care. It is a sulfate free shampoo concentrate and easy to use.
For SLES based shampoo GalFUSION Moist Hair-Care is another concentrate used in dilution ratio of 1:1 with 0.8 % of salt.
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Let me know if the information is useful
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Check with Pilot Chemicals, Colonial Chemicals. There are many more but it all depends on your final budget cost and the quality you are targeting.
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Croda is also a option.
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There are some upsides to using a supplier’s base. These include convenience, less testing required, and less chemical inventory.
But there are some significant downsides. For example, they might decide to stop making the blend because the volume is too low. Then you don’t have a product any more. Some might not tell you exactly what is in the blend. You also have very limited flexibility in the event that they raise prices or discontinue the product.
At the very least, if you’re going to use a blend get information about exactly what the composition of the blend is and see if you can duplicate it using the individual raw materials. That way if they do become unreliable you’ll have other options.
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At the very least, if you’re going to use a blend get information about exactly what the composition of the blend is and see if you can duplicate it using the individual raw materials. That way if they do become unreliable you’ll have other options.
I use a blend because I cannot buy all the components, eg ALES and high-purity LDEA. -
Thank you all for your input, some great stuff to think about,look up and so much to learn.
Yes MOQ is low, I’m only looking at single 200kg drums atm, so thanks Perry for the pros &cons, will certainly have to weigh that up. johnb thanks for the heads up re quality, I am really after something for very dry/ethnic hair so perhaps the premade bases might not be the go.
Such a pain as storage (for even more raw materials) is limited for me atm, so is time & equipment lol Guess I’m looking for a bit of a cheat with a pre made base as I cant do MOQ on a ready to package product at this stage.
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