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    Posted by Essentialx3 on July 11, 2020 at 5:05 pm

    Hello everyone this post is going to be a little long and for that i sincerely apologize .I hope someone can answer my questions and give me some advice as at this point i feel a little desperate so i’ve been dealing with some things and at the moment can’t leave my house however i still need to make a living.

    I started thinking maybe this is the perfect time to start my dream of creating my own brand so after much consideration i decided to start with nail polishes, I’ve purchased some nail polishes suspension base from an indi brand supplier and have started experimenting and have already made a couple of colors and have been wearing them and trying to come with polishes im happy with my worry is microbial testing and if something like this type of base need a preservative and does it need to go through microbial testing as you can imagine i do not have the funds to go and do microbial testing, however i would never sell anything to anyone if its not 100 percent safe for them. i dont ever want to cause harm to anyone i have read on the internet that because of the solvents in nail polishes they dont need any preservative and that because of the solvents in nail polishes bacteria doesn’t strive and thats why in nail salons they use the same nail polishes on everyone however its the internet and you have to take anything you read on the internet with a grain of salt

    Thats why I’ve come here to get advice from the experts i will be working on a clean area and disinfecting everything wearing gloves ,mask ,hairnets ect. Upon my research i have come across stories of people who started their business be it selling cosmetic or nail polishes from home how do they do microbial testing without the funds? to summarize should i still continue or is it a bad idea to do nail polishes from home and sell them ?will I be putting anyone at harm?

    I get very anxious at the thought of this so automatically i think the worse of everything thats why its so conflicting to me. Also one last question regarding some of the ingredients in this bases theres a lot of fear mongering sites out there and i will highly appreciated if a chemist can help me debunk them the chemicals im talking about is BENZOPHENONE-1 and Triphenyl phosphate i heard not so great things about this “chemicals” but i honestly prefer someone who has knowledge about this ingredients overall my last question is if my overall ingredients in my bases can harm anyone if they apply it consistently or a nail biters ect? Again i apologize for my long post and i highly appreciate everyones response thank you

    This is the ingredient for the suspension base ive been working with

    INGREDIENT suspension base #1:

    CAS #

    BUTYL ACETATE

    123-86-4

    ETHYL ACETATE

    141-78-6

    NITROCELLULOSE

    9004-70-0

    ADIPIC ACID/NEOPENTYL

    GLYCOL/TRIMELLITIC

    ANHYDRIDE COPOLYMER

    28407-73-0

    ACETYL TRIBUTYL CITRATE

    77-90-7

    ISOPROPYL ALCOHOL

    67-63-0

    STEARALKONIUM BENTONITE

    130501-87-0

    ACRYLATES COPOLYMER

    25035-69-2

    STYRENE/ACRYLATES COPOLYMER

    9010-92-8

    SILICA

    7631-86-9

    BENZOPHENONE-1

    131-56-6

    TRIMETHYLPENTANEDIYL DIBENZOATE

    68052-23-3

    Ingredient for suspension Base#2

    Ethyl acetate 25%-50%

    141-78-6

    Butyl acetate 10%-25%

    123-86-4

    Nitrocellulose 10%-25%

    9004-70-0

    Ethyl alcohol 5%-10%

    64-17-5

    Isopropyl alcohol 5%-10%

    67-63-0

    Triphenyl phosphate 1%-5%

    115-86-6

    Essentialx3 replied 3 years, 10 months ago 3 Members · 10 Replies
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  • Pharma

    Member
    July 11, 2020 at 5:25 pm
    There is no organism on earth which could grow in these two formulations ;) .
    If someone complains about the two ingredients (which aren’t harmless and are the least harmless ones you have there), they will certainly also complain about more or less all your other ingredients too. The solution for these people: just don’t use nail polish :smiley: .
  • Essentialx3

    Member
    July 12, 2020 at 3:17 pm

    Pharma said:

    There is no organism on earth which could grow in these two formulations ;) .
    If someone complains about the two ingredients (which aren’t harmless and are the least harmless ones you have there), they will certainly also complain about more or less all your other ingredients too. The solution for these people: just don’t use nail polish :smiley: .

    I will like to begin with saying thank you for taking your time to read this and replying i appreciate it immensely.  If you dont mind one last question i know people like painting their kids nails as well will my nail polish be ok to use for them incase someone ask me ? Again thank you 🙂

  • Pharma

    Member
    July 12, 2020 at 4:45 pm
    This is an ethical/parenting question…
    Is it okay to feed your kids artificially coloured, artificially flavoured, sugar-dripping ice cream high in saturated fatty acids and modified proteins derived from artificial milk, kept in form with artificial gelling agents, boosted to please using artificial sensory and crystallisation modifiers?
    If I had kids, they weren’t allowed to wear nail polish nor would I give them such ice cream… at least not on a regular basis.
  • Essentialx3

    Member
    July 12, 2020 at 8:38 pm

    Pharma said:

    This is an ethical/parenting question…
    Is it okay to feed your kids artificially coloured, artificially flavoured, sugar-dripping ice cream high in saturated fatty acids and modified proteins derived from artificial milk, kept in form with artificial gelling agents, boosted to please using artificial sensory and crystallisation modifiers?
    If I had kids, they weren’t allowed to wear nail polish nor would I give them such ice cream… at least not on a regular basis.

    Ok thank you for the insite 🙂

  • OldPerry

    Member
    July 12, 2020 at 10:32 pm

    If you are going to sell products made from home, you should become familiar with this page put out by the FDA. 
    https://www.fda.gov/cosmetics/resources-industry-cosmetics/small-businesses-homemade-cosmetics-fact-sheet

  • Essentialx3

    Member
    July 15, 2020 at 4:31 pm

    Perry said:

    If you are going to sell products made from home, you should become familiar with this page put out by the FDA. 
    https://www.fda.gov/cosmetics/resources-industry-cosmetics/small-businesses-homemade-cosmetics-fact-sheet

    Thank you ill look into it 🙂

  • Essentialx3

    Member
    July 17, 2020 at 2:00 pm

    Does adding too much pigment (iron oxides) effect the formula capability of preserving itself?

  • Pharma

    Member
    July 17, 2020 at 7:09 pm

    Short answer is yes, unless it’s surface modified.

  • Essentialx3

    Member
    July 18, 2020 at 10:45 pm

    Pharma said:

    Short answer is yes, unless it’s surface modified.

    Ok thank you

  • Essentialx3

    Member
    July 18, 2020 at 11:15 pm

    Ok  if you dont mind for a 15 ml how much pigment will be to much again how much pigment should i use as to not affect the perserving factor im sorry if im asking to much question i just want to have better knowledge thank you

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