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  Good Soap Bar Formulation

  Posted by kbasali on April 4, 2015 at 3:07 pm

  Hi

  
  

  We decided to make home made soap with my wife. We plan to sell our soap too. 

  Either me or my wife is not chemist. We got some formula from internet. Some of them are with Lye, some without.  

  
  

  Are there any alternatives for LYE (sodium hydroxide). 

  
  

  I am asking this one because on my research I see some people say natural soap should be without LYE or LYE is not good etc.. etc..  I know they are not chemists or who didn’t make enough search about this but they are potential buyers   

  
  

  How can I make soap with good foam? 

  As far as I know soap is Anionic and I found some  Anionic surfactants:

  
  

  SCI Granules

  Sodium cocoyl Isethionate

  
  

  Oliv Esters

  Olive oil peg-7 esters

  
  

  SLSA

  Sodium Lauryl sulfoacetate

  
  

  Can I use any of them for home made soap or is there anything else you can suggest me to make soap with good foam?

  
  

  Any comments and suggestions are welcomed
  Thank you, 
  Kerem

  MakingSkincare replied 9 years, 1 month ago 3 Members · 3 Replies
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  kbasali

  Member

  April 4, 2015 at 6:25 pm

  What makes the soap better?  First we would like to start from Juniper Berry Soap. 

  
  

  Juniper Berry Soap Recipe 

  Coconut oil – 20 oz, Shea butter – 6 oz, Olive oil – 15 oz, Castor oil – 8 oz, Avocado oil – 8 oz

  Rice bran oil – 8 oz, Cocoa powder – 1 tablespoon,Lye – 9 oz, Water – 18 oz, Ground Juniper Berries – 2 tablespoons, Vanilla Oleoresin EO – .5 oz, Anise EO – .5 oz, Juniper Berry EO – .5 oz, Almond EO – .2 oz, Ylang Ylang EO – .2 oz,Patchouli EO – .2 oz, Sweet Orange EO – 1 oz

  
  

  Goat’s Milk Soap Recipie

  Olive Oil = 26.5 Ounces, Palm Kernel Oil = 5.3 Ounces, Rice Bran Oil = 5.3 Ounces, Coconut Oil 5.3 Ounces, Shea Butter 5.3 Ounces, Palm Oil  = 2.65 Ounces, Castor Oil = 2.65 Ounces,Eucalyptus Essential Oil = 28 Grams, Spearmint Essential Oil = (1.834 Ounces), Goat’s Milk = 20 ounces, lye = 7.185 ounces,

  
  

  But we do not know is it good or it is just up to the personal taste?
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  belassi

  Member

  April 4, 2015 at 9:18 pm

  Are there any alternatives for LYE (sodium hydroxide). 

   - NO. Solid bar soap is made with it. Liquid soap with potassium hydroxide.

  Don’t get confused between commercial soap made with synthetics and natural soap made from fatty acids.

  I strongly recommend that you join a soap forum like this one. Making soap is not very difficult, it is a bit of an art form. It does require attention to safety. The qualities of natural soap depend on the oils used. A good basic recipe is 33% coconut, 33% palm, 30% high-oleic oil such as olive, 4% castor.

  You should make simple types first to get some practice. Your second recipe, for instance, is not for beginners as it would require you to freeze the goat’s milk or a runaway reaction would begin.
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  MakingSkincare

  Member

  April 5, 2015 at 4:09 pm

  As Belassi commented, there are two ways of making soap.  Using lye or using synthetic detergents. The ingredients you mention (SCI, Olive oil peg, SLSA etc) are synthetic detergents.  

  
  

  If you’d like to use the lye method, here’s a tutorial - http://www.makingskincare.com/how-to-make-soap/

  
  

  To learn how to use synthetic detergents to create bars, shampoo or body wash: - http://swiftcraftymonkey.blogspot.co.uk/p/surfactant-based-products-that-arent.html

  
  

  To learn more about “natural” - https://chemistscorner.com/cosmetic-chemists-guide-to-natural-and-organic-cosmetic-standards/

  Cosmetic Chemists Guide to Natural and Organic Cosmetic Standards

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