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    Posted by Leo on August 13, 2020 at 10:33 pm

    What vehicle base can be used with greater than 25% salt concentrations and also withstand a pH of around 1 (professional use)?

    Leo replied 3 years, 8 months ago 5 Members · 16 Replies
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  • Pharma

    Member
    August 14, 2020 at 4:43 am

    What about water? It’s a great vehicle and very stable.

  • Leo

    Member
    August 15, 2020 at 6:05 am

    Pharma said:

    What about water? It’s a great vehicle and very stable.

    Thanks for the water comment but I was looking for something that would provide some viscosity.

  • Pharma

    Member
    August 15, 2020 at 6:07 pm
    Ah, you’re looking for a salt-tolerant and acid-stable thickener… that’s not a vehicle base.
    Using the search function wouldn’t be the worst idea.
    ;)
  • Leo

    Member
    August 18, 2020 at 4:45 am

    do you have any experience with Natrosol 250 or FlexiThix thickeners?

  • Pharma

    Member
    August 18, 2020 at 7:21 pm

    Sorry, no.

  • letsalcido

    Member
    August 18, 2020 at 10:29 pm

    What about a modified cellulose? HEC is used for thickening HCL toilet bowl cleaner, I think it could work? 

  • Leo

    Member
    August 19, 2020 at 4:27 am

    Natrosol is HEC

  • Pharma

    Member
    August 19, 2020 at 7:25 am

    pH 1 plus cellulose = glucose syrup. Same goes for HEC.

  • chemicalmatt

    Member
    August 20, 2020 at 9:09 pm

    The 25% salt content is doable, that highly acidic pH not so much. Colloidal clays (laponite?) may be able to do the job, but experiment is needed. Should you find success please share with the group.

  • Pharma

    Member
    August 21, 2020 at 6:05 pm

    At a pH of 1, clay will release quite a bit of its cations (lithium, sodium, magnesium) and its thixotropic behaviour might no longer be there… you’d have to try and see.

  • Leo

    Member
    August 24, 2020 at 4:04 am

    do you know of any Laponite suppliers in the USA? Thank-you for your comments.

  • OldPerry

    Member
    August 24, 2020 at 12:58 pm

    Eckart sells Laponite.
    https://www.eckart.net/

  • Leo

    Member
    August 25, 2020 at 4:52 am

    Perry thanks-as an aside, do you or anyone on this site have a USA supplier for 

    Poly(methyl methacrylate) (PMMA) 

  • Leo

    Member
    August 25, 2020 at 4:52 am
  • OldPerry

    Member
    August 25, 2020 at 5:16 pm
  • Leo

    Member
    August 25, 2020 at 10:30 pm

    Will do thx

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