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  • Zahra

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    March 16, 2022 at 8:07 pm in reply to: Keratine - how do you produce it?
    Perry said:
    @Zahra - You should read this Types of cosmetic ingredients
    Keratin is what I would call a “claims” ingredient. The strategy companies do is make a standard straightener, add a small amount of keratin and then call it a keratin hair straightener. But the keratin doesn’t really have much effect.

    Excuse me, of course

  • Zahra

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    March 16, 2022 at 6:06 pm in reply to: Help formulate a better hair mask

    Abdullah said:

    Where are you from? 

    I don’t know if it is because of problem in my English or your English has problem too because i don’t understand a lot of what you say correctly. 

    Ask your supplier how much active surfactant does it have.

    You may need a non-ionic surfactant too. 

    And I don’t know how are you homogenizing a 60ml batch. 

    Hi thanks
    My point is clear
    What field are you in?
    Because I think you did not understand my problems correctly.
  • Zahra

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    March 16, 2022 at 6:03 pm in reply to: Keratine - how do you produce it?

    Abdullah said:

    Just be careful you don’t hurt yourself with your products or ingredients. 

    I know your situation right now. 
    I was in your situation when i started thinking about making cosmetic products.

    Let’s make a few things clear 

    You don’t know anything right now. (With respect)

    The products you make will be worse than any product in the market. Accept this fact

    If you want to make a good product, study some reputable books in cosmetic or take a reputable course like the course from this website to make learning faster and easier for you. 
    Or purchase a good formula from an good chemist with a good price and save yourself a lot of time and money and everything.
    There are a lot of good chemist here an most of them would sell you formula.

    And last, try and test and try and test until you make something good. That is how we learn and improve. 

    I have made about 400 different versions of shampoo that was not as good as what i am currently making. 
    I have washed my hairs several times a day, several times to find out the long term effect of it faster. 
    Like this my other products. 

    Do don’t expect your first product sample to be the best for the next of your life.

    Hi thanks
    But I have a master’s degree in organic chemistry myself.
    I will try my best.
    I used ingredients that are found in many cosmetic products
    I also set the percentages based on the allowed percentages.
    I am looking for a solution.
    Do not seek comparison.
    Thank you, I’m careful.
    I work for a cosmetics company.
  • Zahra

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    March 16, 2022 at 12:06 pm in reply to: Keratine - how do you produce it?
    In your opinion
    Hair straighteners
    What surfactants are used instead of formaldehyde?
    I have a problem with the production process
    No one can help this process?
  • Zahra

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    March 16, 2022 at 12:00 pm in reply to: Keratine - how do you produce it?
    Hello, thank you for your good comments
    But to make a hair straightener using cationic surfactants, I do not know if a few surfactants are used, it should be a few percent in a total volume of 50 grams.
    When I increase them, stickiness is created, when I use them less, it does not give the desired result.
  • Zahra

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    March 16, 2022 at 11:56 am in reply to: Help formulate a better hair mask

    Abdullah said:

    That is good that the results were somewhat better than before.

    What do you want now? 

    Hi thanks
    In the production process, I do not know how much cationic surfactant should actually be used for, say, 60 grams of sample.
    I read that 2.5% of cetermonium chloride should be consumed as much as one person concentrate.
    How much is this single concentrate 30 ml?
  • Zahra

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    March 16, 2022 at 10:36 am in reply to: Help formulate a better hair mask

    Abdullah said:

    Several people did guide you on what to add or remove or change the percentage. 

    Did you make the changes as they guided you? 

    What was the result? 

    Hi, thanks
    Yes, thank you all
    The result was somewhat good and I also reduced the amount of isothiazolinone.
    But the results are different on each hair. I think it depends on the sex of the hair and the dryness and fat of the hair.
  • Zahra

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    March 16, 2022 at 3:36 am in reply to: Help formulate a better hair mask
    Hello
    Can anyone really guide me through the construction process?
  • Zahra

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    March 16, 2022 at 3:35 am in reply to: Get hair serum
    Hello
    Can anyone really guide me through the construction process?
  • Zahra

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    March 16, 2022 at 3:35 am in reply to: Keratine - how do you produce it?
    Hi thanks
    Can anyone really guide me through the construction process?
  • Zahra

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    March 14, 2022 at 4:01 pm in reply to: Keratine - how do you produce it?

    Abdullah said:

    One hair straightening ingredient is formaldehyde that i think doesn’t have any alternative.

    Another way is conditioner with silicones. 

    Hi, thanks
    Yes, I know, but in making hair straighteners
    This substance is not used in Brazilian keratins for hair straightening.
    I have read in many articles that thioglycolic acid or glycolic acid or glyoxylic acid has been used instead.
  • Zahra

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    March 14, 2022 at 3:45 pm in reply to: Keratine - how do you produce it?

    Perry said:

    @Zahra - You should read this Types of cosmetic ingredients

    Keratin is what I would call a “claims” ingredient. The strategy companies do is make a standard straightener, add a small amount of keratin and then call it a keratin hair straightener. But the keratin doesn’t really have much effect.

    Hello Mr. Perry, thank you
    Yes, keratin protein only seems to play a small role in my opinion.
    Because above 15% makes hair brittle.
    I have trouble in the manufacturing process of exactly what to combine with what.
    For how long
    Do I have to put keratin and cationic surfactants on the temperature and stir and then dry them and mix them with silicone and oil and other emollients or not? Is it another way or not …
    I wanted to get help from Mr. Matt. You can introduce me to him. He has experience in this field.
  • Zahra

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    March 14, 2022 at 3:37 pm in reply to: Keratine - how do you produce it?

    ketchito said:

    @Zahra I understand you want to make a hair straightener. For that, the common actives are thioglycolates and carbocysteine (although not as potent as thioglycolates). Formaldehyde was used in the past, but has been withdrawn due to safety issues, especially for hair dressers. 

    Hydrolyzed keratin doesn’t perform any significant role in these products. Consider that the ingredient is hydrolyzed in order to the added to a cosmetic, which means, rather than having the full protein (which can have film forming properties), you have smaller pieces (mostly in the form of peptides). They can have many different molecular weights, but they are also more water soluble than the protein,which makes the chance of interacting with hair very low. 

    I’d advise you to focus more on the straightener’s stability in your formula, and the conditioning agents, rather than the keratin (which you can find from many suppliers).

    Hello, thank you, Kachito
    Yes, I want to straighten my hair.
    I know these substances are necessary, namely thioglycolic acid and carbocysteine
    But I have a problem with the manufacturing process and the percentage of consumables.
    Yes, hydrolyzed creatine is the same as peptide.
    But according to my study, the presence of cationic surfactants along with silicones play an important role in smoothing and removing hair follicles.
    But I do not know if I will succeed in making conditioner or hair mask.
    Even increasing or decreasing the percentage of silicones, oils or emollients and collagen and keratin proteins does not give the right result.
  • Zahra

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    March 14, 2022 at 12:35 pm in reply to: Keratine - how do you produce it?
    Hello, thank you
    Guide me through the process of making keratin and revitalizing hair straighteners?
    Are the steps of making keratin treatment similar to the steps of making conditioner or hair mask?

  • Zahra

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    March 14, 2022 at 12:35 pm in reply to: Keratine - how do you produce it?

    Abdullah said:

    Are you a formulator?

    Have you made any product before?

    I think you have problem with a lot of things. 

    My suggestion is to study a lot or take a course to learn properly or hire a formulator to make a formula for you that works. 

    Hi thanks
    I have a master’s degree in organic chemistry.
    I work for a cosmetics company.
    I am responsible for making the formulation.
    I studied a lot, but found something incomprehensible about it, keratin treatment.
    Which confused me in making that process.
    Also for silicone serums
    We have not synthesized many things at the moment.
    hair mask
    hair conditioner
  • Zahra

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    March 13, 2022 at 2:26 pm in reply to: Keratine - how do you produce it?
    Hi, thanks
    Thank you very much
  • Zahra

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    March 13, 2022 at 1:23 pm in reply to: Keratine - how do you produce it?

    I’m sorry
    caprylyl Metichone 

  • Zahra

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    March 13, 2022 at 1:21 pm in reply to: Keratine - how do you produce it?
    I have trouble making silicone argan hair serum. I do not know how to combine argan oil, which is a polar oil, with silicone.
    On the other hand, I do not know what to do to add essential oil or add color?
    Because its color becomes dull.
    But without oil and essential oils and dyes
    It becomes transparent.
    I think I should use phenyltrimethicone to combine oils and essential oils with silicon.
    And I have to use methicillin capril to combine paint with silicone.
    Do you know the process of this serum? Can you guide me?
    I think they need a temperature above 250 degrees Celsius to combine.
  • Zahra

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    March 13, 2022 at 1:14 pm in reply to: Keratine - how do you produce it?
    Thank you
    I still know that silicone is also a emollient.
     And ironing does not damage the hair.
    Cationic surfactants also bind to creatine proteins.
    Of course, some Brazilian creatine uses formaldehyde, which we do not want to use but are thinking of replacing.
    Because formaldehyde is cross-linked with creatine proteins.
    But I want to know how to make keratins like Brazilian creatine without formaldehyde.
    Because when I go through the production process like a conditioner or hair mask, I do not get the desired result.
    Creatine and surfactants appear to mix cationic and amino acids such as cysteine ​​and add to silicon and other materials after drying.
  • Zahra

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    March 13, 2022 at 12:38 pm in reply to: Keratine - how do you produce it?
    Hi. Excuse me
    I’m In Ingredients
    Hydrolyzed keratin
      I did not enter
  • Zahra

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    March 13, 2022 at 10:15 am in reply to: Keratine - how do you produce it?
    Hello, in these samples, there is also keratin protein, which plays a strengthening role in the hair. The smoothness that the product creates is quarantined for three days, after which the hair is ironed, after which the hair is washed with free sulfate shampoo.
    My goal is to combine these ingredients to create a smooth hair for several months
  • Zahra

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    March 13, 2022 at 3:11 am in reply to: Keratine - how do you produce it?

    I’m sorry
    Cetyl alcohol 

  • Zahra

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    March 13, 2022 at 3:08 am in reply to: Keratine - how do you produce it?

    Hi

    Ingredients

    Water
    Glyoxylic acid
    Glycolic acid
    Polyquaternium 6
    Phenoxyethanol
    Ethyl hexyl glycerol
    Cyclopentasiloxane
    Dimethicone
    Dimethiconol
    Amo dimethicon
    Vinyl pyrrolidone
    Polyvinyl alcohol
    Alcohol style
    Stearyl alcohol
    Isopropyl myristate
    Argan oil
    Behntrimonium mesulfate
    Steriumonium chloride
    Di Sodium EDTA
    Tocopherol acetate
  • Zahra

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    March 12, 2022 at 8:48 pm in reply to: Keratine - how do you produce it?
  • Zahra

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    March 12, 2022 at 8:48 pm in reply to: Keratine - how do you produce it?
    Hi thanks
    Keratin treatment
    I meant to apply to the hair
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