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Abdullah said:

Measure your ingredients by weight percentage only. This way you know how much you should add if you change the batch size. Also when write your formula only as percentage. 

Don’t say 2 drop or cc or gram. We cant know what percentage of your formula is this 2 drop or cc. 

Tell us only the percentage so we can know how much you have added and can suggest you increase or decrease it. 

For static charge, you can use cationic guar in shampoo or a cationic surfactant like stearamidopropyl dimethyl amine in conditioner. 

Hi thanks

Sorry I did not write the percentages

Yes, I understand you are right

In terms of percentage of acid or volume N, I wanted to fix it

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Hello Mr. Perry, thank you

I do not have much money to register on this site.

I read cosmetic books.

I know the formulas.

I know what each substance has.

I have a problem with these two issues.

Of course, I know substances that neutralize static electricity, which are cationic surfactants, but I do not know if I need anionic and amphoteric surfactants to neutralize them.

I also know their allowable percentage.

I just have a problem this way.

I had trouble neutralizing static electricity in my hair.

I also have a problem with softness

I want my hair to be soft and fat-free so that my hair does not have too much fat.

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Zahra said:

Honestly you have a ridiculous number of ingredients. The key to creating a good formula is to keep it simple. Do not add more ingredients than you need.

why add 5 types of silicone when 1 would work fine?
why add two acids when 1 works fine?
why add two different types of protein when one works?

You have 24 ingredients. Cut it down to 10 ingredients.

Learn to formulate cosmetics

Yes, I used one type of acid, I used a mixture of two types to check the result

A good percentage of good ingredients are needed to achieve a good formula.

Of course, these materials work well

But I went up and down the percentages together and the result was the same and I did not get a better answer.

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Zahra said:

Hello, thank you all

I told the problem and the amount of materials. thank you for your help

Thanks

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  ZahraMarch 18

  I think I reduced the amount of cationic surfactants because the static electricity charge in the hair was not neutralized.

  On the other hand, I wanted to use non-ionic and amphoteric surfactants.

  What do you think could be the problem?

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• Hi thanks

  Ingredient:

  Collagen protein 4.6 g

  Hydrolyzed keratin protein 4.5 g

  Cysteine 0.53 g

  Polyvinyl alcohol 0.11 g

  Polyvinyl pyrrolidone 0.5 g

  2 drops of glycolic acid

  3 drops of glyoxylic acid

  Polydimethylsiloxane 5 cc

  Dimethicone 2 cc

  Dimethicone 350 ……. 3 cc

  Amo Dimethicone 5.5 cc

  Elastomeric silicon 9045 …… 1 cc

  Hydroxyethyl cellulose 0.5 g

  Disodium 0.1 g

  Water 15 cc

  Ethyl hexyl glycerol 0.64 g

  Tocopherol acetate 0.37 g

  Polysorbate 0.3 g

  Polyquaternium 6 …… 0.4 g

  Phenoxyethanol 0.5 g

  Cetyl stearyl alcohol 0.7 g

  Stearate -20. …… 0.6 g

  Butter object butter 2 g

  Dexpanthenol 2.7 g

  Stainless alcohol 0.8 g

  I set the aqueous phase at 80 ° C.

  Place the silicones at 110 ° C after dropping the temperature to 80 ° C

  Place the oil phase at 80 ° C

  After a while

  Mix the phases together.

  But when applied to the hair, it does not give much result.

  The hair is up to 40% smooth and soft.
• Zahra March 18

  I have synthesized about 75 types of hair straighteners, but the results are almost the same

  I also set the pH to 5.5 to 6

  I do not know if the work process is difficult or not?
• Zahra March 18
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Zahra said:

Zahra said:The content of the photos is not legible for me.

Pattsi said:

© as in the pictures.

لا تعتقد لا عربي أو مصري أنا؟

Hi, thanks

No, I do not think you are Egyptian or Arab

I am not an Arab either

You can resend photos. The second photo is not very clear.

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Pattsi said:

Hi, thanks

No, I do not think you are Egyptian or Arab

I am not an Arab either

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Hi thanks

      Sorry I wrote it wrong

I mean

Undyed hair

I did not correct my sentence

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Excuse me, I may have trouble writing

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Hi thanks

Yes I have used C12_24 alkyl benzoate.

When I synthesize my hair, it is colorless and transparent without argan oil.

But when argan oil is added to it, it becomes cloudy.

What to add to the hair serum to balance the phase of argan oil and silicone oil.

I mix phenyltrimethicone or alkyl benzoate or isopropyl myristate with oil and silicone at temperatures above 300 ° C.

But when combined with other silicones, it becomes cloudy.

Here I have dealt with these problems.

1- Blurring by argan oil

2- It is transparent without argan oil. It is not a problem in terms of transparency, but it is a problem in terms of not having argan oil.

3- Adding essential oil or perfume also causes turbidity

I want the sample to be without this problem.

I use high temperature to mix them.

But I do not know how to solve these problems.

Of course, I know that methicillin caprylic in silicon causes transparency and color dispersion.

But I have not used it yet.

I want to paint it but it is not transparent, I do not know what yellow to use?

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Zahra said:

Zahra said:

Pattsi said:

https://www.ulprospector.com/documents/1037273.pdf?bs=1375&b=120823&st=20&r=asia&ind=personalcare

https://www.ulprospector.com/documents/1570364.pdf?bs=33091&b=987498&st=20&r=asia&ind=personalcare

You can start from these free formulas, there’re also manufacturing processes in there.

I’m sorry, this is the extent limit I can help as we might be direct competitor in the near future.

Perry said:

@Zahra  - if you want help, list all the ingredients you are using, the percentages you are using, the manufacturing procedure you are following, and the problem you are having. 

Without that information there is not much helpful advice people can give.

As Perry said, if you don’t provide information or problem you are having, other members would not be able to give much help. 

Hi, thanks

But I can not be your rival because there is so much distance between us!

I joined this association to open a way for me and others in trouble.

I can not enter this site

Our company does not have email.

Not even with my email.

Thank you

I can not enter this site

Our company does not have email.

Not even with my email.

Thank you

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Pattsi said:

https://www.ulprospector.com/documents/1037273.pdf?bs=1375&b=120823&st=20&r=asia&ind=personalcare

https://www.ulprospector.com/documents/1570364.pdf?bs=33091&b=987498&st=20&r=asia&ind=personalcare

You can start from these free formulas, there’re also manufacturing processes in there.

I’m sorry, this is the extent limit I can help as we might be direct competitor in the near future.

Perry said:

@Zahra  - if you want help, list all the ingredients you are using, the percentages you are using, the manufacturing procedure you are following, and the problem you are having. 

Without that information there is not much helpful advice people can give.

As Perry said, if you don’t provide information or problem you are having, other members would not be able to give much help. 

Hi, thanks

But I can not be your rival because there is so much distance between us!

I joined this association to open a way for me and others in trouble.

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Adamnfineman said:

Zahra said:

Because it is good when I apply it to unpainted hair, but it gives a little softness when I apply it to damaged hair.

What do you mean when you say unpainted hair?

Hi thanks

I mean natural hair.

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Abdullah said:

Just be careful you don’t hurt yourself with your products or ingredients. 

I know your situation right now. 
I was in your situation when i started thinking about making cosmetic products.

Let’s make a few things clear …

Hello, thank you for your help

I try like you

I tried so hard

Because the material money is not from me, it belongs to the company, they reduce their loss from me.

I also studied chemistry.

But in our country, like in European countries, chemistry is not taught properly in many universities.

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Zahra said:

Zahra said:

Abdullah said:

Sorry but i think you have problem in math too. Specially in understanding percentage. 

Do you know one percent it equal to how many grams? 

Hi, I have no problem with calculations.

Yes I know

1% of the substance in 60 g sample is 0.6 g

You do not understand my questions correctly.

Thank you for guiding me so far.

But my questions are something else

Thank you for your help

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Zahra said:

Abdullah said:

Sorry but i think you have problem in math too. Specially in understanding percentage. 

Do you know one percent it equal to how many grams? 

Hi, I have no problem with calculations.

Yes I know

1% of the substance in 60 g sample is 0.6 g

You do not understand my questions correctly.

Thank you for guiding me so far.

But my questions are something else

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Abdullah said:

Sorry but i think you have problem in math too. Specially in understanding percentage. 

Do you know one percent it equal to how many grams? 

Hi, I have no problem with calculations.

Yes I know

1% of the substance in 60 g sample is 0.6 g

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Zahra said:

Abdullah said:

Zahra said:

Abdullah said:

That is good that the results were somewhat better than before.

What do you want now? 

Hi thanks

In the production process, I do not know how much cationic surfactant should actually be used for, say, 60 grams of sample.

I read that 2.5% of cetermonium chloride should be consumed as much as one person concentrate.

How much is this single concentrate 30 ml?

Yes i didn’t understand your clear point clearly. 

Do you understand what percentage of cationic surfactant you should use but don’t know how to convert it to grams in a 60 grams batch?

Or you don’t understand what percentage of cationic surfactant you should use?
If this is your problem, the usage rage is generally 0.2-2%. 
Start from 1%. If it is more conditioning, reduce it. If it is less then increase it until you find what you like. 

Hi thanks

Yes, I know what percentage I should use. But from small to large, I use the same range, for example, from 1 to 5 percent

I share.

Within the limits allowed by the European Union.

But I do not know exactly what surfactants I use

In total, what percentage should I use for this amount?

Yes thank you

I also have trouble making a hair straightener that requires a total of what percentage of cationic surfactants and silicones to use per 100 grams.

I have a permissible range of percentages, but when I use silicones a little more than surfactants, it does not give the desired result. I even change their value.

I set the aqueous phase and the oil phase to 75-80.

After a while, I mix them.

To make a hair mask or

 Hair straighteners

I go through this process.

I do not know the process

Hair straightening is right or I have to go some other way.

Of course, I also use other substances such as protein, emulsifier, thickener and moisturizer.

I used non-ionic surfactant.

For example ceteareth_20

I wanted to use other non-ionic surfactants as well

trideceth_12

Because it is used in most hair straighteners

Of course, there are other compounds that may be helpful.

Like formaldehyde

But I do not want to use it.

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Abdullah said:

Zahra said:

Abdullah said:

That is good that the results were somewhat better than before.

What do you want now? 

Hi thanks

In the production process, I do not know how much cationic surfactant should actually be used for, say, 60 grams of sample.

I read that 2.5% of cetermonium chloride should be consumed as much as one person concentrate.

How much is this single concentrate 30 ml?

Yes i didn’t understand your clear point clearly. 

Do you understand what percentage of cationic surfactant you should use but don’t know how to convert it to grams in a 60 grams batch?

Or you don’t understand what percentage of cationic surfactant you should use?
If this is your problem, the usage rage is generally 0.2-2%. 
Start from 1%. If it is more conditioning, reduce it. If it is less then increase it until you find what you like. 

Hi thanks

Yes, I know what percentage I should use. But from small to large, I use the same range, for example, from 1 to 5 percent

I share.

Within the limits allowed by the European Union.

But I do not know exactly what surfactants I use

In total, what percentage should I use for this amount?

Yes thank you

I also have trouble making a hair straightener that requires a total of what percentage of cationic surfactants and silicones to use per 100 grams.

I have a permissible range of percentages, but when I use silicones a little more than surfactants, it does not give the desired result. I even change their value.

I set the aqueous phase and the oil phase to 75-80.

After a while, I mix them.

To make a hair mask or

 Hair straighteners

I go through this process.

I do not know the process

Hair straightening is right or I have to go some other way.

Of course, I also use other substances such as protein, emulsifier, thickener and moisturizer.

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I read a lot on beauty sites and books.

I read many articles to get each product.

I asked a question because I was skeptical about a certain percentage of the materials and the manufacturing process.

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Zahra said:

Zahra said:

Abdullah said:

Do don’t expect your first product sample to be the best for the next of your life.

Hi thanks

But I have a master’s degree in organic chemistry myself.

I will try my best.

I used ingredients that are found in many cosmetic products

I also set the percentages based on the allowed percentages.

I am looking for a solution.

Do not seek comparison.

Thank you, I’m careful.

I work for a cosmetics company.

I read a lot on beauty sites and books.

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Zahra said:

Abdullah said:

Do don’t expect your first product sample to be the best for the next of your life.

Hi thanks

But I have a master’s degree in organic chemistry myself.

I will try my best.

I used ingredients that are found in many cosmetic products

I also set the percentages based on the allowed percentages.

I am looking for a solution.

Do not seek comparison.

Thank you, I’m careful.

I work for a cosmetics company.

I asked you for help because I work as a novice cosmetics researcher in a company.

I have been working for 16 months.

I did not receive a salary.

I have made many commitments to produce many products.

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1Armand2 said:

Abdullah said:

Just be careful you don’t hurt yourself with your products or ingredients. 

I’m sure she knows what she’s doing better than most of us because she has a master’s degree! 

Hello

I did not say that because I have a master’s degree

I know better than anyone !!!! ??

Here are tips on various issues.

Because you have failed in some products. You say your products are worse than other products on the market.

I am currently a researcher and I need a lot of experience because I am new to cosmetics.

I asked you for guidance.

Thank you for your hope!