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  • theoracle

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    August 30, 2019 at 12:47 pm in reply to: oil soluble natural green color?

    Matcha green tea powder gives the most wonderful green color. It’s not completely soluble in oil or water but in a clay mask I think you’d be ok? The texture is very smooth, not grainy at all you as long as you blend/sift it well to break up any chunks before adding to your formula.

  • theoracle

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    August 29, 2019 at 5:04 pm in reply to: Biosurfactant help

    Thank you all for the solid advice. Sodium surfactin did seem a little too good to be true…I may rethink this product altogether. I want an oil cleanser but maybe an oil gel just isn’t the way to go : ( Look out for the sure-to-come post about the best emulsifier for a more straight forward oil cleanser!  
    Also, sorry about the common name. I just copied and pasted from my formula spreadsheet but I will remember to use INCI or at least more specific terminology for future reference. 

  • theoracle

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    August 28, 2019 at 5:45 pm in reply to: Biosurfactant help

    @Perry ok, I just don’t understand why the sodium surfactin isn’t working as described. All the literature about it says that .1% will emulsify 10% of oil. I’ve got .2% for only 1.5% of oil and it can’t get the job done? If it needs an added solubilizer that’s fine I guess but it seems like this might be a junky ingredient…
    Formulator Sample Shop also just started carrying Sucragel and I was thinking of switching to that for the oleogel since this hasn’t been working. Anyone have any experience with that?  

  • theoracle

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    August 28, 2019 at 12:37 pm in reply to: Biosurfactant help

    Thanks @MarkBroussard  Looks like a perfect product for the toner. I’m not seeing any usage rates anywhere though…any links or advice?

  • theoracle

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    August 28, 2019 at 2:25 am in reply to: Biosurfactant help

    Also any recs on a solubilizer that would fit for this formulation? I

  • theoracle

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    August 28, 2019 at 2:23 am in reply to: Biosurfactant help

    Thank you @MarkBroussard as you seem to actually understand sodium surfactin. The usage rate is so low that it’s not cost prohibitive on my small scale but I definitely can see what you’re saying about the product itself being difficult to scale up. I would like to add a solubilizer and stick to the Babassu, omitting the Grapeseed and see if that helps.
    As to the other commenters, the lime is essential oil for scenting not for ph balancing and the Sodium Surfactin is the right emulsifier for this as I am following a basic formula given by the supplier with just a few tweaks. Are you thinking the oil is the problem or these particular oils (like the lime) are the problem? You may be right if it’s the latter but the whole purpose of this ingredient is to emulsify so it’s not the former.
    Also, the ph of the toner was around 6 so that shouldn’t be too low I wouldn’t think? And as you can see the green tea usage is pretty low also. 

  • theoracle

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    May 10, 2019 at 8:25 pm in reply to: Are preservatives needed for dry clays and fruit powders

    DAS said:

    @theoracle there are powder fragrances.

    Powdered essential oils? Where might you find such a thing bc a Google search turned up nada.

  • theoracle

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    May 10, 2019 at 11:53 am in reply to: Are preservatives needed for dry clays and fruit powders

    I know this is an old discussion but I’m hoping y’all are still answering! 
    As to the last question, how does the product remain a powder after you add the essential oils? Do you reheat it or shortlyso to dry the clay back out?