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thank you all

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@em88, unfortunately we have a very limited surfactant choices. SLES and CAPB are the only one available all the time, and cocamide DEA      

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@sven, thank you for the notice

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@perry thank you, i will start adding it to my active % calculations
@em88 what do you suggest for a replacement

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@sven it is still to be decided ut from what i read so far i am going to try 0.5% polyqaut-10 with 1% polyquat-7 for dry hair

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@Perry @DAS , i read that i shouldn’t add DEA when calculating the surfactant % and i see you are adding it
so does cocamide dea act as a surfactant and i should add it

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thanx @DAS

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thanx @Perry

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@Perry @sven @em88, can you help me in any of questions above

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unfortunately it is the only one available in my country right now, so i have to work with it

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thank you, any idea what to replace them with
because i use dimethicone in my shampoo as well

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no it is not and i am just trying a formula i found to get first results and understand the making and the does and doesn’t for hair serum

why won’t be accepted in the US if you may tell me

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hay @Perry @Bobzchemist
i am trying to reach a formula that works best for me and my work and i have some questions if you could kindly answer

dry hair shampoo

68.5% water
11% sodium laureth sulfate (70%))
9% cocamidopropyl betaine (30%)
3% glycol distearate (( could i use Euperlan PK771 instead of distearate because distearate is not always available and will it give the same effect on pearlizing the shampoo and suspending the dimethicone ))   
2% glycerin (( i read a lot on the site and i understand from your comments that it will be washed away but i need something to help the hair feel less dry or make feel good on the hair while applying it and i don’t want to use oils ike castor ))
2% polyquaternium 7 (( is 2% a high percentage or is it in right range of use and if i added 0.5% polyquaternium 10, should i remove the polyqua 7 or it woud e better to have both ))
1.5% cocamide dea
1% dimethicone (( will this percentage cause heavy build up ))
1.2% sodium chloride
0.5% perfume
0.1% propylene glycol
0.2% preservative

If I wanted to make an oily hair shampoo can I use the same recipe but with raising the SLES percentage to 17% and reducing the dimethicone and polyqua 7

and at last should an everyday shampoo formula resemble dry hair shampoo be    
I know I ask a lot but i want to learn the right way
and thank you in advance

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thanx @em88
thank you @Dino , i am in egypt and this is my email: taheralnajjar@hotmail.com

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thanx for the information @Belassi @luiscuevasii

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Thanx @mikethair
i will keep all that in mind and work on it as you suggested in small steps to reach the desired result

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thank you for the information @Bobzchemist

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thanx @DAS

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thanx a lot @Microformulation
i am working on my PhD in inorganic chemistry and i know it is never easy and i asked here to learn and know what i am missing and what i should do
you helped a lot @Microformulation @Belassi
thanx again

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@Belassi thanks for your opinion, i know that it won’t be easy and i don’t want anyone to give specific details to work with and i do know something about it ( i am no expert but not a total brainless)
i want to work in this area and i have the ability to learn and work and i mentioned i someone can tell me where to look to learn not just give me their knowledge
@Microformulation thanks for the advice, but if no one will accept to teach me or tell where to learn i will never work on something i want to learn

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i thin they add it to get a more bright white color and i am trying
to get the right way to work it in to see if it is the reason for that color @DAS  
@Belassi i don’t have a vacuum mixer but i read that carbopol my work and it is there in the dove ingredients label   

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thanx @DAS
the factory is ready and in place, and i am required as a chemist to determine the operating conditions.
will a chemist on this forum or a consultant give me this in your opinion ?
  

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thank you @Perry
 my current formula is
70% water
12% sodium laureth sulfate (70%))
9% cocamidopropyl betaine (30%)
3% glycol distearate
3% glycerin
2% polyquaternium 7
1.5% cocamide dea
1% dimethicone
0.8% sodium chloride
0.4% perfume
0.2% propylene glycol
0.2% preservative
0.2% titanium oxide
0.2% Mica

and i am working on changing it when i get the other ingredients
when i tried putting titanium oxide with no heat it sunk to bottom very quickly