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I do plan on reducing sea buckthorne and I definitely will take a shot at the sodium lactate. Bless you all. Thank you.
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Mr. Broussard, you are so kind, thank you so much for your time. Thank you very much to everyone else too who have tried to help me. I really feel much more welcome and encouraged on this panel. This is the first panel I have ever been on. Its like a family and friends…….
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I do look forward to further discussions with you all concerning my other products and I will also let you know what is the end result of my formulations. Take care you all.
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Mr. Broussard, Thank you for your time, even though I knew what was causing the problem, I still needed confirmation and opinions from the experts in the field which is why I joined the forum.
I am not a professional hence the reason, I was in doubt as to my opinions and a bit embarassed to state them. I still have no answers as to what I should do to neutralize the buckthorne odor. I cannot eliminate it from my formulation as this is one of the botanicals my customer has requested, neither can I add any fragrance as per customer request. So I believed no one but an expert could have been able to help me in this situation. Thank you for your consideration.

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thank you

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Can you say which is the best alkaline pH neutralizer that gives a pleasant smell?

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Your advice is very much appreciated.
I think I may want to eliminate mineral oil completely from my formulation because my previous formulations without mineral oil did not cause chapped lips. Only when I added mineral oil this occurred. However all my test formulations contained castor oil so I am still in doubt as to, if Castor oil is the problem.
I will definitely try some formulations to rule out those two: castor oil and mineral oil.

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Oh thank you thank you thank you

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Which oil would be best to substitute with castor oil if I remove it from my formulation. I use castor oil mostly for shine, so I want to use one similar in properties.
Which is better for more shine, mineral oil or hydrogenated polyisobutene?

No makeup remover is used to remove the lipstick and through trial and error I have confirmed it is the lipstick that gives the chapped lips.

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Thank you for your recommendations. I do admit the high odor comes from the seabuckthorn. Its the exact odor which I get from the finished product. The botanicals used are from DIY Cosmetics and they are not in liquid form. I use gylcerine to disperse them. I am using the suggested levels recommended by the company.
I can assure you that the rest of my formulation which includes protein solutions, antioxidants, oil extracts, zinc oxide and titanium dioxide does not contribute to the odor of the finished product.

The preservative I am using is one which contains phenoxyethanol, caprylyl glycol, potassium sorbate and hexylene glycol. Caprylyl glycol and hexylene glycol are there simply to disperse the active ingredients.
I strongly believe it’s the seabuckthorn extract which contributes to the odor. They are very potent and gives a high odor, exactly as the finished product. This is supposed to be a fragrance-free product so I cannot use any fragrance to diminish the odor. Is there anything else I can use to neutralize the odor?