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I encountered this discoloration when I used Radianskin on our spot correcting cream. It turned to “brownish cream” after few months. Try to do elimination process because when we remove this active on our formulation, it did not discolor.

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DAS said:

What you need is THIS. 

ok thanks @ DAS. I’ll try this one too.

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@ngarayeva001, ok noted. I’ll try to experiment with decyl glucosides.

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@Gunther, is BTMS-50 clear liquid?

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@ngarayeva001, I tried using Polysorbate 20 and Cetiol HE and was able to get “milky effect” when wet.

thanks so much for your insight.

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Ok. how about if I use Polysorbate 20?

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@ngarayeva00 does KYMF-1 (INCI NAME: Acrylates Copolymer) provides emulsification? or do you have particular emulsifier in mind?

thanks.

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Hi @ngarayeva001, yes i will put EDTA and Phenoxyethanol.

I’ll update you later. ::smile:

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@ngarayeva001, I’ll try to knock out trial batch tomorrow morning.

you’ll be updated as soon as I finish lab trial. ::wink: 

thanks for the help.

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@ngarayeva00 , yes the LOI is lifted from a hand sanitizer formula because that is how i see the product.

@Gunther , yes we are looking into the actuator of the spray pump. however, when we tested the product using a regular pump , the product still works as a face mist.

@Fekher , final pH is around 6.5.

@Microformulation, yes looking at the LOI is the most effective solution. However, the client provided the sample and she got it on INCOS ASIA convention.

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 this is the product @@ngarayeva001

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Hi @Microformulation , there is no ingredients on the sample.

I’ll post the sample photo for our common reference.

thanks.

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Hi @Microformulation , formula is already posted.

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Hi Perry,

I tried transferring part of the sample into a regular pump and still it worked just how it does on its original packaging.

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here is the formula

water qs to 100

carbomer 0.40

edta 0.10

alcohol 60

tea 0.15

viscosity is slightly viscous but the client want something in gel form.

 when i tried increasing carbomer, it doesn’t work as i want it to be.

benchmark is Gel Mist by Beauty Lab

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yes but the product is in gel format but mist type when sprayed.

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Hi David, no. just wanted to learn the computation.
<span>:smiley:</span>

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Thanks a lot, this will fit as a good start.

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thanks @chemicalmatt … i’ll just use some EDTA on the formulation to see the effect. 

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@Bobzchemist @David08848 @johnb thank you all for your thoughts but i have proposed to make powder detergents on our scrap and then dont like the idea because of too many process involved. 

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@johnb we melted the soap bar with some water at high temperature but it goes back to its soap characteristic after some time. we wanted to convert it to body wash at least. 

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@Microformulation, we wanted to make use of our scrap and make it body wash. 

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@mikethair what if we used sediment filtration on our tap water? we have used this type of water for so long (10years) and we would like to know the guarantee of using other types of water in production. 

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Can you advise reason or benefits of using deionized water?

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do we have standard mixing time and humidity in compounding? so you think baume of lye solution does not affect quality of the product? another thing, what is the recommended humidity in the controlled curing area?
thanks for the information guys.