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Without knowing the % of each ingredient in your formula, I’m going to guess that the amount of butter in it is too much for the ingredients you have to stabilize things (have you tested this for stability at all yet?) and that it’s also cooling unevenly, allowing some of the fatty acids and cocoa and shea butters to come together before the rest of it. I’m going to also guess that the arrowroot itself may also potentially cause some issues due to uneven distribution.

Suggestion: Add some waxes…a blend of them preferably and make sure to include one with gelling properties. Reduce the total amount of butter in your formula to be 10% or less. And I’d remove the arrowroot. If you have it in there to make things feel less greasy, look into something like isopropyl myristate to help create a better skin feel.

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@Rockstargirl, thank you. When you say 80 degrees, do you mean celcius? I appreciate the clarification. I’m assuming celcius, but I wanted to be sure.

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Adding to the “no, don’t.” I’ve found decyl glucoside in particular to be quite irritating on the skin, and the stickiness it adds is a pain to deal with.

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Thank you, @Perry !

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Thank you everyone! And yes, for clarification, was looking at the baby rub that uses fragrance, not the OTC product.

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Thank you, @Microformulation!

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Thanks, @JOJO91343 !

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@JOJO91343, thank you. I had heard from others that SCI was sticky. Is that not the case?

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Max said:

we don’t, there is enough preservative in the bulk material.
Only for sterile products, we have sanitization steps in place

Thank you, @Max!

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I’ve only been using the HEC for this so far, @Gunther. The foam without it is okay, but it seems to be a bit denser and more creamy with the HEC. The lather is definitely better with HEC than without.

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That being said, I have had luck with HEC thickening another glucoside based product (though significantly more HEC in that).

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I had been using HEC, @Gunther. I did notice a difference with it, but I’m not sure yet if it’s contributing to the stickiness. I’m thinking it’s likely not after my last knock out.

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Thank you, Mark!

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Mark, do you find it hard to keep it in suspension? Appreciate any insights!

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Thank you for all that, Phil!

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Hi Phil. Thank you for your response. And forgive me if this is a dumb question because my brain tends to be really literal and sometimes I misread things because of it. But were the comparisons done to coconut oil-only soap rather than blends intended to soften the harsh effects of saponified oils like coconut?

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Belassi, I know this is an old post, but I just came across it. Can you talk a bit more about soap over syndet? I usually see people prioritizing syndet.

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I didn’t see that one and will check it out. Thank you, Phil!

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Thank you!

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I’ve seen it for salt and sugar scrubs - sorry, I forgot to clarify that.

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Thank you, Perry. I appreciate it.

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Perfume isn’t even fully developed within 4 fours. It will change over the coming days and weeks before its fragrance is fully developed. It’s literally impossible to know if a “dupe” was successful in 4 hours.

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Thank you, Perry. Will do.

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Thank you so much, Perry! Where do I need to reach out to get that all adjusted?

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That’s something you have to figure out. I can’t tell you how much can go into your formula because I 1) do not know your formula and 2) cannot see what the end result will be. Your best bet is to read the manufacturer’s information and its recommended usage range and begin experimenting with that to see how it performs in your formula.