[OldPerry]

Welcome back @vitalys!  Hopefully, we can get some of the conversations that were here before back.  But the forum will continue with all new discussions.

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Welcome aboard @Heisenberg!  Love the gif in your signature line

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This is useful.

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According to this Cetrimide BP is soluble in water 20g / 100mL so there shouldn’t be a problem with dissolving it in water.

I do not exactly understand your question.  What specifically do you want to know?

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100g is a rather small size batch.  You might have more luck if you were using 400g batches.  They fit well into a 500 mL beaker and you get good mixing.

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Color me skeptical too.  Whenever I hear about new treatments like this I remember the following facts about what can happen after you use a treatment.

1.  Your condition can get better

2.  Your condition can get worse

3.  Your condition does not change

Unfortunately, the same three things are true whether you use a treatment or not.  There is no evidence that swishing oil in your mouth ever day will have much effect on anything.

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Actually, we’re making some progress on that!

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Lol!

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@milliachemist - right. I just wonder what level has to be added for a consumer to notice a difference in the performance of the product. When will a consumer definitely see a difference, at 1%, 0.5%, 0.1%, or 0%?

From a formulators standpoint you should use the lowest level of an ingredient in which you get a consumer perceptible difference.

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What is it effective at doing?

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You could also try reducing the amount that you use.  Is the allantoin having a noticeable effect in the performance of your product? 

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I’m not sure what you mean as “didn’t last as long”.  What happened to the product?  Was it microbial contamination?  That is a likely explanation.  One source produced the glycerin under proper conditions and the other didn’t.

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What type of personal care product are you talking about?  Dow Corning certainly has defoamers that can be used in personal care products.  Try the Xiameter products.

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You’re right, Cetearyl Alcohol is another way you could list it.

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You can find some options at ebottles.com

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If the formula has water you can try adding a Dimethicone Copolyol.

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Actually, I don’t think Cetostearyl Alcohol is in the INCI Dictionary (I couldn’t find it) so the only proper way to list the ingredient is as Cetyl Alcohol and Stearyl Alcohol.

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I doubt there are any studies that demonstrate HGAG can enhance skin penetration.  There aren’t many studies to show any topical treatment can enhance skin penetration without using something like a patch.

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Thanks!  Now, if I could just get the old discussions back…still working…

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I fixed it!

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Thanks!  I’ll look into the problem.

Perry, 44