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  • OldPerry

    Professional Chemist / Formulator
    August 3, 2017 at 1:26 pm in reply to: surfactant preservative

    https://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancer-causes/formaldehyde.html

    Interestingly, formaldehyde is naturally created by your own body in the liver.

    But there is zero evidence that the amount of formaldehyde people are exposed to from personal care products has any harmful effect.

    Chemical toxicity depends on a number of things including level of exposure, time of exposure, and route of exposure.  

    Are there safer alternatives?  I would say no because there is no demonstrable harm of using formaldehyde at the levels used in surfactants.

    But if you prefer something else, follow @DRBOB@VERDIENT.BIZ advice and ask your supplier to give you a preservative that matches the one in your final product.

  • OldPerry

    Professional Chemist / Formulator
    August 2, 2017 at 7:59 pm in reply to: surfactant preservative

    Using preservative-free surfactants is not responsible chemistry.  It’s actually quite irresponsible and dangerous.

  • OldPerry

    Professional Chemist / Formulator
    August 2, 2017 at 3:42 pm in reply to: Natural slime to gel

    You’ll need to provide more details about what you are trying to do. What is the flax seed gel supposed to do?

  • OldPerry

    Professional Chemist / Formulator
    August 2, 2017 at 12:21 pm in reply to: Help on researching ingredients

    There really isn’t a “catch all” website for which you ask. You can get answers on this website.

    The best advice for ingredient usage usually comes from the ingredient supplier.  However, they often exaggerate how much you need to use so you just have to experiment. 

  • OldPerry

    Professional Chemist / Formulator
    August 1, 2017 at 5:25 pm in reply to: Help on researching ingredients

    The question you want to answer for yourself before finding information on ingredients is this…what do you ultimately want to do?

    If your goal is to become a chemist, then by all means learn about ingredients and formulating. Start with some of the resources listed here to find formulas. https://chemistscorner.com/where-to-find-free-cosmetic-formulas/

    But if your goal is to sell cosmetic products then you shouldn’t waste your time learning how to make the product. You should be focused on learning how to sell the products. See our free report here http://startacosmeticline.com

    Running a business and learning how to be a chemist are different specialties. Just because you are good at one doesn’t mean you’ll be good at the other.

  • OldPerry

    Professional Chemist / Formulator
    July 28, 2017 at 12:31 pm in reply to: Inconsistent thickness/viscosity and can’t figure out why

    If your zinc oxide is settling that means it is not properly dispersed which means it is worthless in terms of providing sun protection. You need a suspending agent like Carbomer to help with suspension and you need better blending techniques / equipment.

  • OldPerry

    Professional Chemist / Formulator
    July 28, 2017 at 12:28 pm in reply to: Lotion

    There is nothing obvious to me that would cause that. Although by “sandy” I’m assuming you mean gritty.

    To figure it out, conduct a knockout experiment.

  • OldPerry

    Professional Chemist / Formulator
    July 28, 2017 at 12:58 am in reply to: Inconsistent thickness/viscosity and can’t figure out why

    Are you mixing it the entire time?  Using a hand mixer for a formula like you describe will not give you a consistent product.

  • OldPerry

    Professional Chemist / Formulator
    July 28, 2017 at 12:52 am in reply to: Propylene Glycol - a fragrance ingredient?

    Fragrance is a blend of scent ingredients and solvents used to modify the odor of the final product or the surface that it is being put on.

  • OldPerry

    Professional Chemist / Formulator
    July 27, 2017 at 9:45 pm in reply to: Propylene Glycol - a fragrance ingredient?

    You can still list your product free from fragrances if it contains propylene glycol. This is a humectant and solvent for a variety of materials.

    Skin Deep is not a reliable source of information, although propylene glycol is an ingredient used in fragrances…as a solvent.

  • OldPerry

    Professional Chemist / Formulator
    July 25, 2017 at 9:16 pm in reply to: natural extracts

    Most any extract company will.  You can try Carrubba.

  • OldPerry

    Professional Chemist / Formulator
    July 25, 2017 at 3:24 pm in reply to: Corporate Social Responsibility and supply chain in the cosmetics industry

    I did the survey but you need an option for “doesn’t apply” or “don’t know”.

    Also, it’s a rather long survey as these things go. It would be nice to know what page you are on (there are about 10 pages of questions)

  • OldPerry

    Professional Chemist / Formulator
    July 25, 2017 at 12:33 pm in reply to: Use of Cocamidopropyl Betaine in Leave-In and Styling Products

    I can only guess as I haven’t used this ingredient in a leave-on.  But in a mousse it could help with creating the foam. It could also help the product rinse out more easily when the customer is ready to remove it from their hair.  Do you have an example that is already on the market of this type of formula?

  • OldPerry

    Professional Chemist / Formulator
    July 25, 2017 at 12:31 pm in reply to: Hair Gel Question

    Is there are product on the market you are trying to replicate or emulate?

  • OldPerry

    Professional Chemist / Formulator
    July 21, 2017 at 10:36 pm in reply to: where i place the fragrance in the list?

    You have to know the percentages of all ingredients above 1% in concentration in the formula before you can say where to put the fragrance on the list.

    My guess would be right before the Panthenol but I can’t really say for certain without knowing the other percentages.

  • OldPerry

    Professional Chemist / Formulator
    July 21, 2017 at 1:09 pm in reply to: First Steps to Opening a Cosmetics Lab?

    See this discussion about cosmetic laboratory setup

  • OldPerry

    Professional Chemist / Formulator
    July 20, 2017 at 11:27 pm in reply to: Banned in Europe, allowed in USA

    That’s understandable.  Especially when their website touts pet health and safety as a core company value.

  • OldPerry

    Professional Chemist / Formulator
    July 20, 2017 at 11:14 pm in reply to: Discoloration of Face Wash

    Lots of things could be causing the problem but most likely is the fragrance (perfume).  Did you do a stability test on the formula without the fragrance?

    Solution to this is to get help from your fragrance supplier.  At least that’s what we always did.  They would reformulate the fragrance to fix the problem.

    The Glucose hypothesis sounds reasonable too. Test the formula without glucose too.

  • OldPerry

    Professional Chemist / Formulator
    July 20, 2017 at 8:54 pm in reply to: When is heat required for emulsions?

    If it makes you feel better, there will be little noticeable difference even if you breakdown the flavonoids in your herbal extracts.  There is little scientific evidence demonstrating their effectiveness in topical products. 

  • OldPerry

    Professional Chemist / Formulator
    July 19, 2017 at 9:16 pm in reply to: Banned in Europe, allowed in USA

    @Doreen81 - to be fair I’m sure Hartz has tested their product on dogs and in their view the product is safe for animals to use.  They are a rather large company and would be open to class action lawsuits if they weren’t tested.

    It also wouldn’t make sense for a company to sell a product that harms a significant number of their customer’s pets. 

    I’m sure it happens as these same things happen with cosmetic companies. Safety testing is no guarantee that a consumer (or their pet) won’t have a negative reaction.  It simply gives confidence that it is ok for the vast majority of consumers.

  • OldPerry

    Professional Chemist / Formulator
    July 18, 2017 at 4:18 pm in reply to: Banned in Europe, allowed in USA

    Interestingly, this year’s “allergen of the year” is…

    Alkyl Glucoside
      

  • OldPerry

    Professional Chemist / Formulator
    July 17, 2017 at 5:24 pm in reply to: Banned in Europe, allowed in USA

    It’s in line with the regulatory philosophy here in the US. We assume that companies are motivated to make safe & effective products. If they make harmful ones, there are lots of lawyers willing to take cases and sue companies. So, if someone is harmed by their product they can get relief in the courts. If there were a huge number of complaints then companies would change. 

    MIT may negatively affect some people but the vast majority of consumers (>95%) are not effected by it. This is likely why it hasn’t been banned.

  • OldPerry

    Professional Chemist / Formulator
    July 17, 2017 at 4:03 pm in reply to: Banned in Europe, allowed in USA

    From the FDA…

    “Animal Grooming Aids

    The animal counterpart of a cosmetic is commonly referred to as a “grooming aid.” The Act defines a cosmetic as pertaining only to human use (21 U.S.C. 321(i)). Therefore, products intended for cleansing or promoting attractiveness of animals are not subject to FDA control. However, if such products are intended for any therapeutic purpose or if they are intended to affect the structure or function of the animal, they are subject to regulation as new animal drugs under the Act.”

    The claims are regulated by the FTC & if there are any claims that it is a drug that would fall under the FDA, but for just pet shampoos…I don’t think there are any regulations in the US.

    Relevant article

  • OldPerry

    Professional Chemist / Formulator
    July 17, 2017 at 3:20 pm in reply to: Banned in Europe, allowed in USA

    The US FDA does not regulate pet products.

  • OldPerry

    Professional Chemist / Formulator
    July 7, 2017 at 2:00 pm in reply to: extend the shelf life

    None that I know of.

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