mikethair
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If we are talking biodegradable, I’ve gone one step further. We manufactured a liquid dishwashing soap by saponifying waste cooking oil. Yep, turned a waste product into something that cleaned dishes!!!
This product of ours sold very well globally.
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You could start with a Google search to find organic certifiers that meet your particular needs.
When we were manufacturing for various brands globally, some of the brands requested organic certification for the products we manufactured. But in the end, most did not take up the certification. The manufacturers realised that most consumers make decisions based not on third-party certifications but on the confidence they have in the brand and its integrity.
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Yes indeed. With the GMP certifications we complied with it was very clear that our QC Manager was not to be involved with formulation/production. This was certainly a focus during regular inspections by the government cosmetics compliance authorities.
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After about 20 years of starting a skincare brand, manufacturing, and exporting globally, I have realised some important truths.
You need to separate the formulating and manufacturing functions very clearly from the marketing and sales. One person can’t do both. I have found that the mindset of these is very different.
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The fact that products made from natural ingredients don’t foam and/or don’t smell good is because of poor formulation.
Since 2006 I have formulated for global brands using only natural ingredients, and these products have been very successful. And have elevated these brands to become very successful.
But having said that, there are challenges in formulating with all-natural ingredients. It can take time. For example of have spent three months on some products to get them right. Then I send samples to my clients for their evaluation and customer feedback. This can take another two to three months.
So, to answer your question”There isn’t a way to fix these problems?” yes there is. The key is a competent formulation by a formulator experienced in using natural ingredients. And more consumers these days are looking for all-natural products.
And with surfactants, I have perfected ways of saponifying plant oils. And with the correct choice of oils, these foam very well.
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Hi,
I have been formulating with essential oils for many years, and since 2006 have formulated for many global brands.
Formulating fragrance is an art, and requires many years of practice and in-depth knowledge of essential oils. The easy route is to use synthetic fragrances. But these have been lost favour recently.
And with essential oils, we use certain oils to “anchor” other oils. For example, benzoin is used as a fixative, slowing the dispersion of essential oils and other fragrance materials into the air. And I prefer to use certain base oils. Of course, all of these must be in a synergetic blend.
For best results, and to elevate your products, it’s best to outsource to a competent formulator. And that’s what many of the brands I work with globally have done.
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No surprises here about the “sticky feeling.” You have provided a complicated formulation of synthetics.
With moisturisers, my approach is a lot simpler. I use only plant oils and select these based on what I’m trying to achieve. With the various oils available, you have a wide palate to produce various outcomes. But you do need to know your oils. And I prefer working with organic oils.
I co-founded a skincare manufacturing company, and since 2006 have produced these types of products for brands globally. They sell very well.
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Would be best if you listed the ingredients.
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No surprises here, it is a massive shift in mindset for manufacturers.
With my experience as the co-founder of a skincare manufacturing factory in Viet Nam and Malaysia since 2006, I am able to provide advice on the design and setting up of certified GMP Manufacturing facilities and the associated Quality Control (QC) system.
Cosmetics professional with competencies in communicating with people, designing and managing quality systems, labs and research areas. My focus is on continuous improvement via audit, operational efficiency, and continual problem analysis.
Working for more than 15 years in our company’s QC and Production areas, I have managed many QC audits. And oversaw the manufacturing of cosmetic products for export to Private Label clients in Europe, Japan, and the USA. Associated with this manufacturing was the preparation of cosmetics compliance paperwork for these export markets.
Experienced with following and auditing GMP regulations, I come from the view of avoiding the risk of contamination to the process/product and ensuring the entire QC system works well to prevent problems (Quality Management, Training, Complaints, Recalls, etc.).
I also specialise in setting up the production of saponified vegetable oils to produce various all-natural body wash, face wash, and shampoo products.
Feel free to contact me: mikethair@gmail.com
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From my experience in formulating so-called “barrier repair” creams in fact have the opposite effect. The synthetic ingredients tend to aggravate the skin of sensitive individuals, and they require frequent re-application.
Counterintuitive to many, is the use of high-quality plant oils. I use organic plant oil formulations that are soothing, healthy and hydrating. Either single ols or in a combination. For example, a single oil I favour is Jojoba. And using a combination of oils gives you a broad palate of treatments/effects depending on the oils used.
I formulated these soothing/hydrating oils for around 20 years for private-label brands globally. They were very popular with brands and their customers.
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Overall, happy with what we have now. It works!!
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From my perspective, this is a very complex formulation based on synthetic ingredients.
My approach was a lot simpler and straightforward. I saponified extra virgin olive oil. This produced a very mild face wash base to which we added appropriate EOs.
Globally, this product was enormously popular, both under our own brand name, and Private Label.
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I would check customer reviews, some products are not what they claim.
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Phenoxyethanol, or 2-phenoxyethanol, has a large spectrum of antimicrobial activity and has been widely used as a preservative in cosmetic products for decades. It is effective against various Gram-negative and Gram-positive bacteria, as well as against yeasts, and has only a weak inhibitory effect on resident skin flora. According to the European Scientific Committee on Consumer Safety, phenoxyethanol is safe for all consumers - including children of all ages - when used as a preservative in cosmetic products at a maximum concentration of 1%. Adverse systemic effects have been observed in toxicological studies on animals but only when the levels of exposure were many magnitudes higher (around 200-fold higher) than those to which consumers are exposed when using phenoxyethanol-containing cosmetic products. Despite its widespread use in cosmetic products, phenoxyethanol is a rare sensitizer. It can be considered as one of the most well-tolerated preservatives used in cosmetic products.
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Yes agree, but in my opinion, it all depends on where you position your brand in the marketplace. For me, it was all about quality that our customers could trust. And cost wasn’t an issue.
Saponifyning our own coconut allowed me to select the best quality coconut oil and KOH. The Potassium Cocoate we produced was of the highest quality.
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My approach to shampoo is a lot simpler. Saponified coconut oil with added essential oils. I manufactured this product for 20 years for brands globally, and now in retirement, I have constant requests for this product.
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Why not get radical and saponify coconut oil…… it produces a really cleansing and foaming product.
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As a scientist, I see Vitamin E & C as marketing ingredients that have little
(if any) effect in topical skincare. But the marketing people will see it differently. -
In our Patchouli Lavender Face Wash, we use a formulation of 1.5% EOs (Patchouli, Lavender, Bergamot).
I should also add that this Face Wash base is made by saponifying extra virgin olive oil, so this is a lot different from your usual synthetic face wash base. And being made from extra virgin olive oil, it is very mild on the skin. Also, this base performs a lot differently concerning fragrances.
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And where would we be without plants?
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Microcontamination need not be a problem. You can use Hurdle Technology which has been used in the food
industry since the 1970s. It has also been applied to cosmetics.Hurdle Technology is the intelligent combination of different preservation factors. Combined, these will restrict Microbiol growth. However it must be applied by a qualified cosmetic scientist, and the production facility should have a laboratory for testing results.
The key elements of self-preserving cosmetics include strict good manufacturing practices (GMP). Combined with appropriate packaging, low water activity, and low or high pH values. These elements appropriately combined can restrict microbial growth in cosmetic formulations. Also important is the need to formulate with non-chemical multifunctional antimicrobial ingredients. These include plant-derived essential oils and extracts.
Essential elements also include production premises that are certified GMP. Every product must pass a Preservative Efficacy Test (PET) in an internationally certified laboratory. All products are microbial tested in your laboratory before being released by the QC Manager.
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Hi Twish,
I call it complicated because it is complicated. And this is evidenced by the “stickiness” you describe. In short, your formulation is not performing.
And I have provided you with an alternative. But you will first need to understand your oils. And this approach provides superior outcomes as evidenced by our experience manufacturing for brands globally since 2006.
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I disagree. I feel very comfortable in this forum. I’m a chemist, and I have formulated for many brands globally over 20+ years.
Also, with my experience as the co-founder of a skincare manufacturing facility in Viet Nam and Malaysia, I am able to provide advice on the design and setting up GMP Certified Manufacturing facilities.
I also specialise in setting up the production of saponified vegetable oils to produce various all-natural body wash, face wash, and shampoo products. And I have successfully capacity-built companies in these areas. The African companies I have worked with are now doing extremely well. And all done remotely to keep the cost down.
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There is very little, if any, peer reviewed evidence for the cosmetic effects of caffeine around the eye area.
However, having said that, I have formulated some Private Label products for the eye using caffeine. It’s a sexy product, and sold very well.
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In saponifying our own coconut it allowed me to have full control over the quality and characteristics of the Potassium Cocoate produced. In the shampoo we produced I regarded the Potassium Cocoate as a surfactant with amazing cleansing abilities.
And, the saponification process gives us the ability of “superfatting,” which means we formulate the coconut and KOH to leave a percentage of the oil unsaponified. This would provide the “moisturising” you refer to. Of course, the superfatting percentage must be tightly calculated and controlled during production.
But for many, high levels of superfatting are not desirable in a shampoo. But where it really counts for example is in our face wash. Here we saponified extra virgin olive oil to produce a luxurious, moisturising face wash. Our face wash was VERY popular.
OK, easy to write here, but in fact it took me more than one year of experimentation to get our face wash, shampoo, and body wash perfected. But once done, we went into production and produced these products for around 20 years, and exported globally. These included our own branded products, and 90% of our production was Private Label for various brands around the world.
Now that our production facility has closed, I’m looking for partners with the ability to produce these products under my guidance. And yes, these skills are transferable…….we have done this with a few businesses in Africa who are now doing very well.
