mikethair
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I paired Clove with Copaiba Balsam in my Clove Soap bar formulation. It sold well globally from 2006 until we shut up shop in 2024.
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The answer to “When do companies add collagen?” is simple. When they want to make money.
Products with added collagen are profit generators.
The research literature suggests that collagen cannot be incorporated into the skin via creams/lotions/washes.
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Hi Aniela,
Yes, attached to my production facility, I had a fully staffed analytical lab, and we did test that the CoA supplied was accurate.
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I may be able to help.
Please email me at: mikethair@gmail.com
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Hi,
It is best to email me directly at: mikethair@gmail.com
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I may be able to do that for you. Email me at: mikethair@gmail.com
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Hi, I’m interested.
I’m an Australian and the co-founder of a skincare manufacturing factory in Viet Nam and Malaysia since 2006.
My email is: mikethair@gmail.com
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I also suffer from sensitive skin, so when I co-founded Indochine Natural in 2006 and went on to establish factories in Viet Nam and Malaysia, my approach was limited, simple, plant-based ingredients and zero synthetics. Plus I did a lot of research and analysis of ingredient allergens. I established my own in-house analysis lab to test all products before release for sale, and ongoing product development.
My company did very well, and I manufactured and supplied products globally. I have now retired in Australia.
The key, in my opinion, is to sell your story and maintain very high product standards.
You can contact me directly at: mikethair@gmail.com
Good luck.
Kind regards,
Dr Mike Thair
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I co-founded a skincare manufacturing company in 2006 and established factories in Viet Nam and Malaysia. After a short period, we were operating 90% as a Private Label Manufacturer for brands globally.
In that period, I never needed to use the type of software you have mentioned. I set up my own systems based on Excels.
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My approach to something that provides hydration soothes the skin, and is suitable for acne-prone skin is a lot simpler and Synthetic-Free (a major irritant). I formulated an all-oil skin lotion that sold extremely well globally.
After a short period, 90% of my sales for this product were wholesale Private Label globally for many brands.
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From my 20-year experience as the co-founder of companies in Viet Nam and Malaysia, it is a very crowded marketplace, with very little, if any, differentiation between products. So my starting point was to produce an all-natural shampoo made by saponifying all-natural plant oils. A natural starting point was to saponify coconut oil that was in plentiful supply.
Our shampoo was an instant hit with consumers who did not want synthetic shampoos. I ended up Private Labelling for many brands globally. My shampoo was a massive success.
So my advice is to first think about differentiation in this very crowded marketplace.
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My approach was totally differrent.
I saponified coconut oil to produce a foaming and thoroughly cleansing shampoo that I named Tropical Sunrise Shampoo. And with absolutely zero synthetics.
It became one of my top-selling products globally. And even today I am contacted by customers wanting this shampoo.
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I think that you may be overthinking this issue.
When I was running Indochine Natural (2006-2024) I formulated and produced similar olive oil/beeswax body salves for various Private Label clients globally. A lot of these issues of crystals forming in the product came down to the ratio of olive oil to beeswax. So lots of experimentation and rigorous Excel documentation of recipes and results. I cracked it after a few months.
And then my next worry was the exports going to various climates globally and the FedEx/DHL courier conditions between my factory and the wholesale buyer.
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In my humble opinion, far too complicated.
I started my company in 2006 and had two factories with exports globally and 90% Private Label revenue. And the product I formulated was called Hair Oil using just high quality plant oils with essential oils for fragrance.
And for me, it’s all about “trading down,” down to the local, the simple, the unrefined but raw and true.
Serum? Give me a break, it’s associated with blood.
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” it seems clear that it’s just plain hard to make good soap. Unlike synthetic shower gel or hand wash.”
Yes, but easy if you know how. I co-founded two factories producing artisan-made all-natural soap. We exported globally, and 90% of the exports were Private Label for various brands globally.
If you want to know more, please get in touch.
Dr Mike Thair
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Hi Perrry44,
I would say that many synthetics can be hostile to sensitive skin, but this depends on the individual and their particular sensitivities. The thing to remember is that synthetic ingredients are continually evolving, and in comparison, EOs have been around for a long time and are very well-documented in the research literature.
I know from experience that I am sensitive to synthetic ingredients and need to avoid these at all costs. My wife is the same.
With EOs, it is all about formulating them intelligently into skincare products. That’s why I had a full research lab associated with my production facility. And three to six months development time for a new product was the norm.
From 2006, I formulated and produced skincare incorporating essential oils. These products I exported globally. I never had any negative feedback from customers. 90% of my turnover was from Private Label brands globally.
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Hi Abdullah,
OK, yes, there are allergens in Lavender, but with careful formulation, they never became a problem in my 20+ years of formulating and distributing products globally. But you need to know what you are doing when formulating lavender-containing products.
Your statement here is total nonsense: ” But when those
allergens are mixed with hundreds of other molecules in best ratios
that they can have, wouldn’t it make a synergy and become not allergen?” The answer is NO!! NO!!! NO!!! -
This is excellent advice !!!!
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Ok, when you formulate and manufacture products, and ship them globally for 18 years, you learn stuff. In fact a lot of stuff. One thing that I learnt over this period was that there was nothing wrong with these products and with all the safeguards I took, allergens were not an issue. The products sold very well, with zero complaints.
And by the way, do you have comparable experience and qualifications do you have? Would you like to share it here?
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It’s a matter of how you manage these chemicals. That’s why formulation is such an underappreciated craft.
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With respect, I can think of a few synthetics that are more hostile than EOs, which have been around for quite a long time and are well-researched and documented. The same can’t be said about synthetics.
Formulation using EOs requires a well-educated and experienced formulator. I formulated from 2006 until 2024, exported globally, and never had any issues. And I was backed up with a fully staffed on-site chemical/microbiol testing laboratory.
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Sorry, I don’t have the original CoA because I am now out of the game and not manufacturing. I have retired.
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I disagree. The science is there, it’s just that people don’t understand it or lack the capacity to understand.
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Hi Perry,
Yes, I do, and that’s why I do an allergen analysis for every formulation. This analysis is based on validated CoAs provided by the supplier.