[MaidenOrangeBlossom]

Ive never heard of salt in body oil, the only thing I can think of is mixing water with the salt and using a solubalizer

[MaidenOrangeBlossom]

The biggest reason why you wont find too much information is that you should avoid it altogether. I used to do this and other things that could have actually harmed immuno compromised patients so now I stick to a stricter safety science and that will always be your best bet. Using an oil used for cooking if bought from an organic store like olive oil might not have a COA so I can’t say that its ok or not but I’ve done it.

[MaidenOrangeBlossom]

Without knowing the ingredients its hard to say however PE 9010 has never failed me. I use ingredients that tend not to emulsify easily so I had to add 2% more of BTMS 25 to my hair mask and although slightly harder than what I wanted, its very stable. The texture you want is just as important as what texture you get from a preservative. You adjust accordingly. I know there might be limitations due to price point and if you have a business partner/boss but you can always keep pecking away at the formula as a whole.

[MaidenOrangeBlossom]

Film forming and slippery type of ingredients reduce the tacky feeling. Slippery elm, seaweed powder are two ingredients I use to not only improve feel on skin but hydrate without stickiness. Tacky lotions are incredible for the skin which may partially be why its made a huge difference in how your skin looks. But the tacky sensation is awful.

[MaidenOrangeBlossom]

ucuuba butter Highly unlikely

octyldodecanol Unsure what this is

sodium lauryl sulfoacetate Highly unlikely

sodium cocoyl isethionate Highly unlikely

manuka honey Try without

ketoconazole I use an rx shampoo, its orange but has coloring in it, not sure if it could be pink

geogard ECT Highly unlikely

panthenol Highly unlikely

sodium citrate Unlikely

caffeine Unlikely

tocopheryl acetate Highly unlikely

citric acid Unlikely

[MaidenOrangeBlossom]

I made one with a cationic surfactant. Worked very well.

[MaidenOrangeBlossom]

Who was the investor and were they held accountable for the damage they caused?

[MaidenOrangeBlossom]

I’ve had good luck using gluconolactone or gluco delta lactone. Its very soft, hydrating and a natural chealtor. So I imagine it could be a double whammy and help with both problems. I also have had good luck adding apple cider vinegar the low ph seems to work miracles on hair with higher ph water.

[MaidenOrangeBlossom]

q.s. Water: Def not the issue

2.2% Extracts: Very unlikely

6.5% Glycerin: Not likely

2.5% Bovine Colostrum: My bet is possible this is contributing

1% Preservative: Usually not a problem

4.5% Glycerin (and) Glyceryl Acrylate/Acrylic Acid Copolymer: Never use but suspicious

5% Sweet Almond oil: Nope

0.1% Vitamin E: No problem

1.75% Macadamia Oil: No problem

1.25% Squalane: No problem

0.3% Kukui Oil: No problem

2% Sepinov EMT 10: Don’t know this ingredient

[MaidenOrangeBlossom]

If something has that many ingredients is likely claim based and you may not need most of it. One of my favorite products was dermalogicas rice exfoliating mask. It was brilliant. I wish I could dupe it.

[MaidenOrangeBlossom]

Is there a reason why? Those are very very common combinations that I use in many of my products.

[MaidenOrangeBlossom]

I use hydrolyzed oat for scent. Not only is it softening and great for problem skin, it smells nice.

[MaidenOrangeBlossom]

Yes very small difference between the jojoba but sweet almond and almond are very different. For example you would want to use sweet almond for a pain product vs almond. Almond oil contains a toxic element. This is why I use sweet almond for my pain cream.

[MaidenOrangeBlossom]

I don’t know all of the ingredients but I can bet it’s the steric acid. Its incredibly thick and hard. It also has a high degree of drag so its not going to settle into skin and can even suspend whitening ingredients. You don’t have to omit it but you can lower the percentage. Without knowing what kind of cream and specific percentages, its hard to say but if you decrease to 3% or less, you might see a difference.

[MaidenOrangeBlossom]

There hasn’t been anything I know that can grow hair except for drugs used specifically for hair growth. Some botanicals can cause hairloss in some people but then again some people don’t respond to drugs like minoxidil and off label hair growth drugs. However, there are exceptions. My female friends who took prenatal vitamins experienced hair growth. When I took pumpkin seed oil, my hair grew faster than its ever grown but I don’t know why. When I massage my scalp with castor oil with some essential oils, my hair gets mildly thicker but not enough to make any claims. The mechanism is likely just the massage itself than the oil. However, the oil if made well can create a healthy scalp. With my severe eczema I have to be cautious now. But during my last flair when I had to apply moisturizer and oils to my eye brows and skin 6 times a day, my eyebrows got thicker. I don’t know why but I suspect the coconut oil which was recommended for its anti fungal and anti bacterial properties helped with whatever underlying issue I had and the extra circulation helped too.

[MaidenOrangeBlossom]

I use GDL for all of my bath formulations but I know with eczema prone skin they recommend using the least amount of ingredients but I still am confused by the use of SLS. Dose is the medicine or poison…but with the availability of newer more gentle surfactants, maybe its a cost consideration. Why spend millions on testing a new formula when it works.

[MaidenOrangeBlossom]

They use such a harsh surfactant, I’m confused at how these globally popular brands can refer to their products as gentle and safe for eczema when they are not. One gentle cleanser I used contains CABP and the cetaphil contains a known irritant. However, without extensive testing I can’t market my facial cleanser as gentle or better than these brands. But each individual ingredient is repudiated for its gentleness whereas the surfactants used by major brands touting safety is not.

[MaidenOrangeBlossom]

Experimenting would be much better than duping the formula. I have a lot of reason why but I’ll do my best to give an idea of what I would do:

1. Mineral oil (I would sub something lighter like jojoba or squalane, unless you need a very occlusive lipid, you can prob use less than 10%)

2. Water (Usually 50%+ of a cream recipe)

3. Beeswax (Usually less than 4% of a cream recipe but could be more)

4. Ceresin (Never used but for a special treat try a floral wax)

5. Sodium Borate (Haven’t made soap before)

6. Stearyl Alcohol (Nice powdery feel and co emulsifier, usually well under 10% of recipe)

7. Sodium Lauryl Sulfate (Not the most gentle cleanser, try subbing SCI at around 3-5%)

8. Fragrance (Eliminate, not worth the potential allergen although floral wax can introduce allergens it has a strong scent and has been gentle for my sensitive skin, usually fraction of a percent)

[MaidenOrangeBlossom]

We’ve all trusted the wrong people. The bully at my old job is earning $150k a year and destroying the company. SMH. Its hard out there.

[MaidenOrangeBlossom]

thats insane, how does this happen? Their sunscreen caused the worse eczema outbreak of my life. I still have scars.

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[MaidenOrangeBlossom]

thank you so much I had no idea it had a charge

[MaidenOrangeBlossom]

I’m not sure what to make of the reports that Amazon themselves dupe products. I get that everyone copies everyone else. Someone duped my exact same recipe of a top seller and made it better lol but at least it was another small seller and they don’t have the legal resources to do what amazon does.

[MaidenOrangeBlossom]

It was suss but my doctors keep recommending it due to eczema. Its very comedogenic too so I’m confused as to why and how it works or if my doctors weren’t up to date.

[MaidenOrangeBlossom]

I haven’t seen that. But I do know that just replacing something with an ingredient that looks good doesn’t guarantee suitability or performance. So my goal was to not only use gentle ingredients that were gentle on their own and combine it with other gentle ingredients to make something that performs just as well. The only challenge I can think of is not having a lab or access to clinical testing. Other than that just coming up with a basic formula that I can at least test on myself is a start. I wouldn’t spend any grant funds on testing something that likely could not work or wouldn’t work on my skin. My customers might be picky about natural skin care but they’re not chemists and wouldn’t understand the use of parabens and SLS. However, they are very happy with other synthetics I use like urea that I can market fairly well. I have been avoiding the use of natural and have replaced it with nature identical in the same way a used car is now a pre owned car.

[MaidenOrangeBlossom]

Its an interesting science so I would love to learn more and the process of experimenting, I was able to learn enough to be able to blend without looking at a guide. It was not only a lot of fun but you learn more than just scent. You can learn how it impacts the formula. I’ve created some god awful nasty stuff I couldn’t give away and learned a lot. But with the right funding, I would hire a consultant in a hear beat.