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If you’re concerned about the waste, I would recommend doing refills that use less packaging over all such as a larger amount in a single container, maybe try selling in more eco-friendly packaging? For example, use packaging made from renewable resources and is biodegradable. I found bottles that 1/3 of the plastic used to make the bottle was replaced with straw. Very cute and as far as I know, that SOUNDS more eco-friendly than a 100% plastic bottle. I would caution though too that a lot of recycling and eco-friendly mumbo jumbo is all just marketing hype and I’d go as far as to say that a decent amount of it is just marketing hype or outright lies so they have a story to sell their products.
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I don’t have any connections or know anyone else who does any of this stuff so I have no idea who I’m supposed to avoid. I recently started having to branch out to new suppliers because of availability or ingredients. I’m assuming there are reasons to not just come right out and name who to avoid, so is there a way I can find out then?
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Well that’s certainly a solution I hadn’t thought of lol
This is the only forum I belong to so maybe that’s why I haven’t run into any bad ones yet.
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Awesome, thank you for that confirmation!
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Thank you! That’s what I was kind of leaning towards after reading the FDA guides, but I wanted to get a second opinion from people that probably have more experience than I do in case I was misunderstanding anything. I’m a bit paranoid about accidentally breaking any regulations and getting in financial trouble over it. Since I’m just starting out, I don’t have the financial means to weather any fines or anything yet and would just go under without even having the chance to learn from my mistakes.
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Thanks for your reply. That’s a good point about the compounds. I don’t know how I would go about figuring that out though 🫠. I agree there are no coincidences.
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I understand that that an allergy isn’t possible, I meant sensitivity and just misspoke. There is something there though that causes adverse reactions in an alarming amount of sulfur-containing foods and products. It just doesn’t feel like a coincidence.
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Thank you! It seems like in very low doses sulfur doesn’t cause issues like in eggs. Cooking the heck out of them until they start to smell like sulfur seems to help and then the super fresh, same-day-laid eggs are okay. Apparently sulfur increases as eggs get older but cooking can break it down and release some of it or something like that which is why they start to smell “eggy” after being cooked a long time. Eggs that are cooked a little less like over-easy or store-bought egg that are older make me very sick. Sulfa drugs are also deadly for my family members, among other sulfur-containing products. I would definitely say it’s a sensitivity since no egg is sulfur-free and we are made partially of sulfur. Bodies with allergies and sensitivities are weird haha. It may not be the sulfur in the surfactants, it could be just the eczema being sensitive too. I just don’t know and am clearly not a doctor. I really appreciate your input, it really helps!
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Thank you for that! I hadn’t come across that information yet so I really appreciate you bringing that to my attention. I looked into it and it’s because of the dangers of inhaling one of the ingredients in the Germall Plus, but that same ingredient is fine for cosmetics and applications that don’t pose an inhalation risk.
Would you have an alternative you recommend instead for this application? I don’t know very many or much about preservatives since none of my products use preservatives (candles, soap, bath salts, etc). I made a single lotion for myself with Germall Plus and that’s it.
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I haven’t come back to this yet since I’ve been working on other formulations in the meantime, but I wanted to thank you for your reply. I have a small resin mixer with a stand that I use since it minimizes the amount of air being incorporated into concoctions while mixing. I’m glad for the reassurance that poly20 is the right choice for this product. I did more research from manufacturers and found that majority of the manufacturers disagree with information online about usage rates for it. It turns out that usage rates online only work with essential oils really and that when using fragrance oils, which are thicker and more substantial, you have to use significantly more, like 1:4 oil:poly20 even depending on the oil.
I’ll be revisiting this after I finish reformulating my current product, hopefully within the next several days.
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Thank you so much for your reply! I ended up going back to my old formula that uses SLSA instead of Decyl glucoside. I just couldn’t get a good soap from the Decyl. Everything I tried failed to make it less drying. The SLSA does great with NOT drying out hands. I discovered today that the SLSA is easier to mix in if I dissolve it in part of the dilution water first before diluting to paste and then combine the dilution water with the paste as usual.
I was trying the HEC because I had received concerns about the soap being too watery. If I add less water it’s a little too concentrated. Does the HEC affect how drying it it on skin?
My usual paste ingredients are:
Oils coconut:olive:castor 2:2:1
water:glycerine 1:1
KOH
Then I dilute with
87-150% water + 2% SLSA
Add 2% sulfated castor oil
So, what I was trying to fix by trying the HEC was a more consistent thickness and less watery consistency. I was told the slip it provides is nice. I like the slip as well but I’m not sure if it’s impacting the soaps ability to lather well or not. The first test was at 2% which was way too much. The second was .5% which seems better but I think it’s affecting the clarity. It’s not making it cloudy but it’s causing a slightly textured look instead of the super smooth, clear-glassy type look, if that makes any sense. I tried stearic acid (I’ve never worked with it before) but I couldn’t get it to do much of anything. I may have been doing something wrong though.
The other issue I was trying to fix and haven’t been able to yet, is that the feel after the soap is washed off. You know the feeling on your finger tips after you wash your hands with a bar of soap, almost a gritty feeling? My soap isn’t nearly as bad as bar soap, for sure, but that’s not a very desirable feeling for a liquid soap. I’ve gotten quite a few comments about that and I’ve felt it myself as well. I tried 1% and 2% aloe as well as 1% and 2% propylene glycol. I’m not sure how to get rid of it. I haven’t noticed any improvement with either of those ingredients.
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It’s liquid as far as I can tell
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Thank you for this insight.
