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@Wanhebat actually this formulations have low surfactants concentration so the result is too strange then continue reducing their level untill the the you solve the problem .
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@Wanhebat I guess that the amount of CAPB and SLES is acceptable and not too much however make a try reducing SLES or CAPB or both.
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@Wanhebat have good work and waiting your update
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@Wanhebat a lot of correction can be done, reducing the level of DEA is the most effective solution for your formulation then no need to use both glycerin and monopolylene glycol , use just one with low level.
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It can be acceptable
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@Isharaperera Why not using LABSA? it is very important ingredient in dishwash liquid
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@Rookayerh123 according to my experience 10% as ASM is sufficient
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@thepomademan Google it there are many videos and articles about that.
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@suswang8 for sure it must be in cool down and I guess 5% is good level to work as antifoam.
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@chemicalmatt searching on the net I find something EMULGANTE EL 65 I guess the supplier made an error in the name so it is a product made from Castor oil and polyethyleneglycol ether.
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@singhc10 thanks for the feedback, so adding alcohol can solve the problem but it increases the cost and even decrease the longevity of perfume for that I gone with no alcoholic product, for solubilizer peg 40 is not the best what I use I guess is better and there is no rule for solubilizer perfume Evry perfume has specific value, so for my solubilizer in some perfume just 1:1 ratio can lead to transperent product so the perfume is totally dissolved.
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@codeshanka make a pic for your product to understand more the problem.
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@enam yes glycol distearate can reduce the foaming effect so you need to use it at the minimum level to pearling effect.
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Thanks @chemicalmatt actually the trade name is emulgate EL 65 supposed to be effective solubilizer (I made some reaserchment on the net about it and I did not any information about it ) and the product is spray.
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@Shams may this information will help you, so lamesoft PO65 is mild tensio actif not as you said (superfatting agent), about your problem my suspect going to Sodium PCA because it is electrolyte an may it broke the viscosity made by ultrez so here is some idea I guess your product can be fine without the Sodium PCA unless you can change the ultrez by something not electrolyte sensitive as cellulose gum, xanthan gum…
Last thing the level of use of cetearyl alcohol seems high just decrease it I guess it will give better result. -
@Hamaadali008 you can use carbomer for that but it needs expertise because carbomer is very sensitive with electrolyte so you need to know the adequat amount for each ingredient to do the job, however SLS is ingredient easy to thick with other ingredients as slat.
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@Amjad make some reaserchment on the net about the level of use of benzalkonium chloride for sure you will find.
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@Paprik Many things to tell you may help:
The cetyl Alcohol is fatty alcohol not emulsifier.
Soaping effect is normal effect of using emulsifiers so I think many things can help to reduce it depends on the best solution for you : you can reduce the amount of emulsifier, adding amount of Ethanol, using more low hlb emulsifier.
About ratio the best thing is making some sample even in low quantity to see the result because there is no best ratio for all systems as you already said. -
@JDCosmo make some reaserchment on the net I found some formulation for it.
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@dr_chem actually your formulation seems acceptable may you need to change supplier because the quality of ingredients
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I agree with @Dennis try to reduce the level of cetearyl alcohol for better texture.
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@Benz3ne I did not believe suppliers for cosmetic Ethanol because when I ask about the other ingredients they did not know exactly and about IPM and MPG by experience they did not have significant fixative effect.
@ketchito about IPA i’don’t think that toxicity because it is used with high level 75 % (v/v) as sanitizer. -
@Pharma thanks for the answer about my definition of pharmaceutical Ethanol is Ethanol found in pharmacy and perfume’s Ethanol is Ethanol found in Cosmetics suppliers which is solding with very high cost,supposed contain fixative but actually I don’t really belive that.
And why many think that using isopropanol is bad idea to make perfume as I read? -
@Soona actually it is really easy to enhance viscosity of your system without gum or carbomer you just need to add adequat level of salt to have viscous clear liquid soap.
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You are welcome @Abdullah