Chemist77
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An ultrez might work here, check Lubrizol site. They have plenty.
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A normal carbomer wouldn’t be of use here, use which can stand electrolytes while maintaining the clarity.
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Lubrizol lists some great formulations of this kind. You will a lot of help there.
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HPMC, high viscosity??
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Apart from a difference in selection of surfactants and adding some fairy dust claim items, it is INDEED a cleanser. You already have explained yourself perfectly, someone on this forum used a word ‘puffery’. This finds the best use here.
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This is more of a cosmetic product component and I am not sure if there would be studies showing uses of walnut/apricot shells being used in medicines.
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Cost is the first issue, secondly how else you would sell the secondary chemicals if you give a perfect formula to the customer ?
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Nope I have liquid formulation, but in powders they do use CMC if I am not mistaken. This prevents clumping after the addition of slurry in the tower.
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Go fragrance free as @Gunther says, appeals better for certain niche groups. I use potassium potassium cocoate in my liquid laundry systems. Works perfectly fine.
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I know @Belassi will mention that one thing, the camel urine ??
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With dimethicone you will lose clarity, else it is one of the best.
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The pour temperature is very high as you know, but still if you want to try then go with ethanol. That is more of a personal care solvent, IPA not so.
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Nope, I haven’t come across any such reference material. That would be too risky for any supplier to post. Online repackers/traders are probably the only ones where the prices are mentioned.
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If it is about that pomade thing, then trust me only the process can help. Nothing else seems to help, manually ethanol/IPA buffing at the surface makes it free from bubbles/aeration. There might be little effect but it is just not worth it.
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@Perry
https://www.google.ae/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.fda.gov/cosmetics/productsingredients/products/ucm228898.htm&ved=2ahUKEwia246VuoLeAhVROBoKHdKeDPgQFjAKegQIABAB&usg=AOvVaw3rfvNMUYt5emeMfdn3b-8l
There seems to be a dead end when it comes to straightening hair with maximum effect without the presence of formaldehyde during hot ironing. There have been few new things but I am not very sure how they perform comparatively. The dosage recommended by FDA compared to actual being present is always different in most of these products. I was referring to those cases where they have made wrong claims related to formaldehyde and which are one too many. I agree with you that there are products those follow FDA guidelines and completely ethical but they are either too mild for such treatments or not too visible. The customers expect a 6 month effect after one such treatment and I am not sure how that would be possible by following the legal limit. I would be interested to know of such products which are equally effective while sticking to FDA guidelines and hence I stated above that maybe I have not looked in the right direction. -
I haven’t come across a true product in this line until now, formaldehyde/or its precursors are used in one form or other under the disguise of this and that. It is a very profitable line, I have seen people making tons of money but the ethics are completely missing.
Or maybe I haven’t been looking in the right direction where the hair can be straightened without the use of formaldehyde release during treatment. -
@Doreen Initially I thought EO stands for Essentially Obsolete ???
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Fekkher there is this ester C12-15 alkyl benzoate which @chemicalmatt always mentions in his posts on such issues. Try it, may work better than IPM.
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Skipping Lonza, I would say Ajinomoto is extremely expensive and what I see is a HC product in the picture above. Check Croda, I remember seeing one of these products in their portfolio. And I remember it was for HC application.
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Try Phenyl Trimethicone @0.5-1%, a bit expensive but might work.
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I don’t really remember but I believe it was above 5% or so. I could be wrong as well since I didn’t retain the sample and formula both.
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Check if any of the Polyquaterniums could be of use here.
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Try potassium cocoate and you will see the change in foam profile. An optimized formulation has a right amount of soap for suds control. Have done it with my LLD and once I overshot it, there was absolutely no foam in presence of a high amount of surfactants.
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@em88 bang on money here, Methocel 40-101 would be a great choice I suppose. Need slight neutralization, and back acid neutralization is much easier without any loss of viscosity. I have based my comments on a trial for hand sanitizer free of water ethanol having CHG. Cellulose are a liitle slimy in application IMO but they can be worked around as well. Did a beard wash with HEC and an APG, worked fine.
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I doubt that and this is strictly my personal opinion based on my trials and experience.