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  • Bill_Toge

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    November 23, 2022 at 10:31 pm in reply to: Formulating Water Based Pomade
    oleth-X has very different physical properties to ceteth- / steareth- / ceteareth-X - it’s a wedge-shaped molecule rather than a linear one, so it takes up much more space at the water/oil interface, and therefore they can’t be used interchangeably
    with DMDM hydantoin, the major concern is temperature; these products have to be mixed and filled at high temperatures (60+ °C), and DMDMH will not survive an extended filling run that hot
  • Bill_Toge

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    November 20, 2022 at 9:25 pm in reply to: Is this formulation likely self-preserving?
    it depends on titratable acidity more than the pH itself; from my experience, the lowest level of acidity at which I’ve observed consistent self-preservation is around 25-30 mg KOH/g
    over several years we made dozens and dozens of batches of this product, and others with  higher acidites, and never had microbial growth in a single one
  • Bill_Toge

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    November 17, 2022 at 11:24 pm in reply to: w/o emulsifiers in o/w emulsions

    with O/W it’s good practise to include both a high and low HLB emulsifier, in order to maximise stability - if you can add an ionic emulsifier as well, that’s even better

  • Bill_Toge

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    November 17, 2022 at 11:21 pm in reply to: Sugar body scrub
    if anything, under-preservation is more of a problem than over-preservation
    put it this way: if you constantly feed someone a subtle poison, they’ll eventually get used to it, but if you blow their head off with a shotgun, they’ll never get the opportunity to do so
  • Bill_Toge

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    October 5, 2022 at 8:28 pm in reply to: Poloxamer 407
    having worked with poloxamer 407, the genuine article is a white powder that lumps up in water, generates some foam on mixing, and takes a long time and a lot of shear to dissolve/hydrate in the absence of any other additives
    in alcohol, it will not dissolve at all at temperatures below 20 °C
    if your material doesn’t meet this description, it’s probably not poloxamer 407
  • Bill_Toge

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    October 5, 2022 at 8:20 pm in reply to: Why is this niacinamide serum turning brown?

    Bill_Toge said:

    like many amines, tranexamic acid oxidises and turns yellow/brown over time

    Thank you, I wasn’t aware of that. I didn’t think it was the tranexamic acid because I didn’t find any data on it specifically turning brown. 

    it’s a very common phenomenon with amine-containing organic compounds dissolved in water
    for instance, at my last place we had an old sample of 90% monoethanolamine that had turned dark orange due to oxidation; when I ordered a fresh sample, it was completely colourless and had a much sharper odour
  • Bill_Toge

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    October 3, 2022 at 8:47 pm in reply to: Why is this niacinamide serum turning brown?

    like many amines, tranexamic acid oxidises and turns yellow/brown over time

  • Bill_Toge

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    October 3, 2022 at 8:45 pm in reply to: Poloxamer 407
    in my experience it’s very, very, very slow to dissolve and hydrate, and the process gets slower at high concentrations
  • Bill_Toge

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    September 28, 2022 at 10:44 pm in reply to: Where to find Dermofeel PA (should I make my own?)

    0.1% is enough, more often than not

  • Bill_Toge

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    September 27, 2022 at 6:57 pm in reply to: N-nitroso Compound

    it is possible for cocamide DEA to form an N-nitrosamine, but only if your formula contains nitrite salts, organic nitrites or bronopol; without any of those ingredients, it won’t happen at all

  • Bill_Toge

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    September 27, 2022 at 6:47 pm in reply to: Where to find Dermofeel PA (should I make my own?)

    sodium phytate is easier to find, does the same job, and dissolves more easily

  • Bill_Toge

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    September 23, 2022 at 10:03 pm in reply to: Formulating with PEG-90M

    homogenising the formula destroys PEG-90M and other long-chain resins of that type; your best bet is to disperse it in glycerine, or something else it’s not soluble in, then add it with stirring (no shearing!) until it’s fully hydrated

  • Bill_Toge

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    September 23, 2022 at 9:52 pm in reply to: Hello i’m New here please help????
    I agree with the previous respondents - that’s a photoshop job
    using ingredients like that on the lips is a dangerous and very, very slow process with no guarantee of any results; plus, glycolic and ascorbic acids are insoluble in oil, meaning they’ll have little or no effect
  • Bill_Toge

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    September 23, 2022 at 9:39 pm in reply to: Need advice for training of hair color product
    Teluca, who manufacture hair colourants of all kinds, also have some excellent resources available, including a colour chart showing what can be achieved with particular combinations of bases and couplers
    a tip from personal experience: if you want to mix colours, use one base with multiple couplers, or one coupler with multiple bases
    if you try to combine multiple bases with multiple couplers, it becomes an absolute disaster zone
  • Bill_Toge

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    September 10, 2022 at 1:48 pm in reply to: What has been your most challenging formulation problem?
    from my current job, the most challenging formula was a 15% azelaic acid serum - as azelaic acid is both hydrophobic and highly polar, it dissolves efficiently in very few solvents, and the ones it does dissolve in (dimethyl formamide) are highly toxic
    the solution in the end was to formulate it as an emulsion with a highly polar oil phase (butyloctyl salicylate) - it worked, and it’s since become one of our best selling products
  • Bill_Toge

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    September 10, 2022 at 1:45 pm in reply to: What has been your most challenging formulation problem?

    I also made numerous futile attempts to replicate Chinese-made styling pastes based on their ingredients lists, until I started ignoring the lists altogether and working from first principles

  • Bill_Toge

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    September 10, 2022 at 1:43 pm in reply to: What has been your most challenging formulation problem?
    at my last place, one of our customers wanted to expand their range with an ointment, consisting of petrolatum, mineral oil, cetearyl alcohol and cetearyl ethoxylate; as the company had ample experience with hot-fill products, the formulation itself was not difficult, but processing it was
    if you filled it too hot, it’d become rock-hard and brittle once set - you had to shear it to a smooth paste just below the melting point of the cetearyl ethoxylate and fill it below that temperature, and if the temperature got too high, the cetearyl ethoxylate would melt again and cause the end product to become granulated rather than smooth
    but once we cracked the manufacturing method, we were then able to develop a paraffin-free formula, stabilised with castor wax, which allowed more flexibility on the filling temperature (at the time there was a great deal of controversy over paraffin-based ointments starting/aggravating fires)
  • Bill_Toge

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    August 18, 2022 at 5:39 pm in reply to: Help! What is making the color change??
    iron and salicylic acid form a purple/red complex, but the colour change is usually instant
    my best guess is that salicylic acid is slowly being released from willow bark extract, and it’s complexing with a source of iron
    is your water deionised?
  • Bill_Toge

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    August 3, 2022 at 10:44 pm in reply to: 15% Azelaic serum

    azelaic acid is not very soluble in anything - your best bet is to make the product an O/W emulsion with a very polar oil (e.g. a salicylate ester) as the oil phase

  • Bill_Toge

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    August 3, 2022 at 5:42 pm in reply to: Dupe of Clarins Instant Smooth Perfecting Touch

    the silica is most likely fumed silica, which gels oils and makes them less fluid

  • Bill_Toge

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    August 3, 2022 at 5:32 pm in reply to: Flash Points and Safe Manufacturing Practices
    make sure the electric systems are properly earthed, make sure there’s nothing inside the vessel that generates sparks, and keep the lid shut wherever possible (in order to prevent the release of flammable vapour)
    there are more advanced measures that can be taken, but these cover the basics
  • Bill_Toge

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    August 3, 2022 at 5:27 pm in reply to: What causes lotions to expand out of the bottle?
    are your samples very aerated at the point of filling?
    if there’s enough of it, air being released from an aerated product could pressurise the container
  • your acrylates copolymer thickener is very likely to have been knackered by rhe salt, and your product has lost viscosity as a result
    as for the pearl effect, if you’re not using a premixed pearliser, you need a lot more SLES, or a lot less glycol stearate, to see the effect
  • I’ve found a couple of useful substitutes for petroleum-based ingredients in colour cosmetics - Pelemol P3D from Phoenix Chemical (INCI: Dilinoleic Acid/Propanediol Copolymer) has the anti-lubricant properties of a high-viscosity silicone oil, while Viamerine 10,000 from Aldivia (INCI: Oleic/Linoleic/Linolenic Polyglycerides) has adhesive properties similar to a high molecular weight polyisobutene resin

  • hexylresorcinol is a good material for reducing dark circles under the eyes - you only need 0.5-1.0% for it to be functional

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