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We put Lexgard NAP in our prototypes along with a natural chelating agent and it’s proven pretty robust.
The rose scent of phenethyl alcohol is pleasant and smells appropriate for facial care products. The women in my husband’s family (all Mexican) always comment on how much they enjoy the scent.
That said, I personally find the scent a tad traditional for my taste and our brand direction is more herbaceous, less floral. We are planning to transition to Benzostat because benzyl alcohol has a milder aroma that is easier to blend with.
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@Belassi - Trehalose in reasonable quantities with international shipping http://www.swansonvitamins.com/swanson-ultra-pure-trehalose-1-lb-454-grams-pwdr
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Thanks @Mike_M. Will give it a go and see what comes of it.
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Hmmm, interesting. Thanks guys.
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@Mike_M out of curiosity is the lactic acid/urea combo a line of facial or body products?
Have been reading about urea/gluconolactone and urea/arginine/l-carnosine for various skin conditions and wondering about how these combos would fare as a facial moisturizer for winter skin.
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Congratulations @Belassi. Mexico seems like a great playground for Lush-esque concept. Now to tame the marketing beast.
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Just wanted to say I enjoy the skeptical tone. Refreshing counterpoint needed to balance the “silliness” propagated elsewhere.
Entrepreneurs should believe there is value added in the products/services they provide but they also need a thick skin, willingness to face adversity and an appreciation for how difficult it will be to convert non-believers into potential clients in a grossly oversaturated market like this one.
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If you’re willing to look North, I would suggest this Canadian company for small runs:
http://www.jukeboxprint.com/custom-box-printing.php
They will quote you on almost anything you can dream up including custom sized boxes.
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@mimosa
The only oil/butter products I am aware of that are eligible for Fairtrade International certification are: Argan, Olive and Shea.If you do a search for these products individually, you will find cooperatives in Morocco, Palestine and West Africa respectively. They may be able to point you towards their European distributors. -
Just realizing you were likely referring to antioxidants to delay rancidity in the oils rather than as claims ingredients.
In that case, I can say that I’ve played around quite a bit with Rosamox from Kemin in facial products and not found them to be irritating in the least. -
Tetrahexyldecyl ascorbate may be worth a shot if the budget allows for it.
Also, this product looks like something similar and makes some pretty hefty claims about the antioxidant content of Moringa Seed Oil -
The nerve of some people. Hope this new brand is wildly more successful than the knock off Belessi. Sheesh.
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@Belassi… your brand name was stolen? Wow that’s unexpected.
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Sodium alginate might also be worth a try.
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@bobzchemist Thanks for the advice.
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I am inclined to agree with @MarkBroussard that changing consumer preferences are the mother of invention and that’s not necessarily a bad thing.
If (and it’s a big ‘if’), we as consumers can focus our attention long enough to stop buying into the ignorance and evolve past simplistic “natural=good/synthetic=bad” thinking, perhaps we will be able to use this all-natural movement to value and sustain bio-diversity.I find these stories heartening:On another note, I wonder if the “this synthetic ingredient protects against unnecessary monoculture and rainforest deforestation when compared to more natural vegetable based sources” is a marketing message that eco-conscious consumers will ever get behind. -
It’s possible that “free from” claims perpetuate chemophobia but I’m not sure they’re any more morally reprehensible than fantasy-based marketing schemes for fairy dust ingredients.If I may paraphrase you Perry; every product needs a story.
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@belassi: Interesting that the article states “some of its attributes include efficient salt response, effective viscosity builder, …” which would lead one to believe that’s all there is to it. Overly simplified reporting, I suppose.
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@belassi: do you have any experience with dehyton ao 45? Basf claims it’s salt thickening.
http://www.happi.com/issues/2015-09-01/view_features/safe-green-mild/ -
@Belassi, what is the aroma like?
Is it possible to formulate with 2% of glycyrrhizic acid as a serum so that it used more sparingly and absorbs faster?Perhaps, it’s less likely to come into contact that way? -
@Bobzchemist hadn’t considered the colourant quandary. Duly noted. Thanks!
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@DavidW Will try my luck with Brenntag if not, will start cold calling as @Bobzchemist suggested.
@Belassi I’m all stocked up on the white kaolin for now but we own a place in Mexico and make it there every winter. Will message you then to see if you have any left. Carrying white powder from Central America back through the border should add some excitement to my life. -
Need the spreading abilities of kaolin in our facial masks to even out the locally sourced silt.
We found that using all white washed the colour out too much so we have been mixing white and black to get the desired grey tone.I know we could probably get the same effect for cheaper through activated charcoal or iron oxide but was hoping not the mess around with the LOI too much.You were already on my mind for the white kaolin
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Thanks guys….
Perhaps will try my hand at applying for INCI listing. Nothing like a new challenge.Camelina oil is like soy but claims to be rich in anti-oxidants/tocopherols giving it a shelf life of 2+ yrs. Plus an agrestic scent that I quite like. Emerging crop in Canadian prairies, nice to support bio-diversity whenever possible. Might throw in some rosemary extract to help ward off rancidity.Saw swiftcrafty monkey’s adventures with syndets. Will give my semi-syndet a try and post results here.