[AmitKaria]

Fekher said:

@ngarayeva001 actually i’am not talking about solvent i meant it when i said solublizer , solublizer is ingredient used to dissove other ingredient which is not soluble or has bad solubility in solvent i wish that difference between solublizer and solvent is clear  also solvent has important % in Lol however solubilizer has lower % .  “Almost problem of transperency return to bad solubility wich means our solvent is not good enough to dissove desired ingredient”.

I get what you saying, but it would be better for me to find a thickener which would dissolve in Aloe solution without haziness then add another ingredient to make it clear or help in solubilizing so that it becomes clear…it is a matter of trying to maintain purity of the final product without too many additives.

[AmitKaria]

ngarayeva001 said:

I guess you are talking about solvents. Water is the most common solvent. Propylene Glycol and Ethanol are also solvents. I don’t think aloe needs anything but water to be honest.

I agree, why dilute further when already Aloe Vera is mostly water.

[AmitKaria]

The Aloe vera Juice I use has no solubilizers just preservatives, Sodium Benzoate & Potassium Sorbate 0.10% each.

[AmitKaria]

Will try that - thanks.

[AmitKaria]

jsmith14 said:

Hey All,

I’ve added the EOs at the end of my phasing.  I kept them at around .8% of my formula but still feel the scent is not strong enough.  Would it make sense to add jojoba oil with the EOs at the end of my phasing?  Meaning I add both EO and jojoba oil while the mixture is cooling and right before pouring into containers.  I figured jojoba could help hold the scent better.  Thoughts?

Much thanks!

Jsmith

I agree it is best to add the EO at the last step but since the phase will be hot it will evaporate the important top notes of the oil unless, if you can, cover the phase so that the EO does not lose its top note and settles back in.  Important to have an airtight cover and chill the phase.  Jojoba oil is a carrier oil but it helps to prevent the EO from losing the top notes at elevated temperatures so in some way it might help but you will be using more of oil to get the fragrance.

[AmitKaria]

Dtdang said:

Try making lotion/cream with rosehip oil, turmeric extract, raw natural honey (hard to find), glycerin, aloe vera.

I think this is an excellent formulation but why Glycerin, just the rosehip oil or if possible sandalwood oil, turmeric, honey and aloe shud do a better job.

[AmitKaria]

ngarayeva001 said:

Deionised water, 0.1% of aloe vera x200 powder, 0.5% of ultrez 30. Hydrated for an hour, elevated the pH to 7 with TEA. Result: viscous but cloudy. Tried the same with 0.5% of x200 aloe vera powder (which should equate to 100%), the gel was very runny and cloudy. I hope it’s helpful @AmitKaria

Thank you for the effort…I am doing some of my own tests too but not using Aloe vera powder, using aloe vera decolorised juice so probably will not have to dilute with water, will update with results once I achieve some success… I am hydrating using a blender to disperse the carbomer 940 with the juice, this is where the solution becomes cloudy and does not clear up thereafter.

[AmitKaria]

Belassi said:

I’m using Ultrez 20 with 40% aloe vera and no problem at all.

When you say 40% Aloe Vera, is it juice or powder?  I have got pure clear Aloe Vera Juice and do not want to dilute it further using any other ingredient.

[AmitKaria]

I have not used Sepimax - will get a sample and try it out.  Will surely share my experience here.  Thank you.

[AmitKaria]

Thanks for the update - appreciate it… I get a good thick gel with Carbomer 940 but the clarity is not there… I did get some clarity if I increase the pH to 8 ~ 9 but anymore and it becomes runny…Thanks for sharing your experience.

[AmitKaria]

ngarayeva001 said:

Carbomer 940 is not tolerant to electrolites at all (I personally think it’s not tolerant to anything but water, very dissapointing material). Carbopol Ultrez 30 is claimed to be electrolites resistant by manufacturers. I have not tested it myself yet, but since you asked, I am curious. I will run an experiement later today and let you know if it works.

That is great, would appreciate that, thanks a ton.

[AmitKaria]

Chemist77 said:

An ultrez might work here, check Lubrizol site. They have plenty. 

Thank you will give that a shot.

[AmitKaria]

Chemist77 said:

A normal carbomer wouldn’t be of use here, use which can stand electrolytes while maintaining the clarity. 

I use Carbomer 940 - what do you recommend?